Another LDS adoption related story. If anyone else has one they'd like
to share, just email it to me. This is a story from "Ana". It again
showcases the propaganda and pressure tactics the LDS church uses in
trying to coerce single-mothers to give up their children.
"I found your YouTube video about your experience with the church and
their adoption services. I was in the same boat as you when I was
pregnant with my son. I'd like to share my story as there are other
mom's who have gone through what you did.
I was raised as a Mormon and when I hit my teens never really got into
the religion and people pointed and whispered about me all the time. I
was in foster care the last couple months of high school and I remember
if I ran into anyone in my ward they kinda snubbed me. Well I moved to a
different province (I am Canadian as well) and just lived my life the
way I wanted to. I by this point was barely involved in the church I
just didn't really believe in the religion anymore it had done no good
for me or my family despite them saying if you follow it you will be
blessed. I had a one night stand and was in denial for 3 months until I
told one of my sister's I thought I was pregnant. I wasn't working at
the time and so she bought the test for me and it came back positive. I
didn't know what I was going to do I didn't want to tell my
parents....my whole family was Mormon and at the time my parents were
actively still going to church I thought they would disown me. My sister
told my dad and he came to visit me and talked to me about it and I
broke down. He explained they would support me with whatever decision I
made.
I moved in with my family and soon they had gone to their bishop and
explained my situation so he asked if he could meet with me. Well I knew
what was coming....I had street smarts I wasn't stupid. They were
mormons there was going to be only one thing they would want to
discuss....adoption. We met with him and this lady who worked with unwed
mothers in the church. They of course started talking about adoption
and how my son would have a horrible life if he was not adopted out to a
temple worthy mormon family. My dad was shocked and after apologized
and told me he had no clue that's what they were going to talk about. I
decided to give their counseling a try as I was still a little undecided
at that point what I was going to do. By than I believe I was 4 or 5
months pregnant.
All they did was talk about how hard it would be in all aspects if I
kept my baby. They told me that only 10% of single mothers succeed. That
90% never get married and live miserably and their children have next
to nothing. They tried to show me videos and graphs and do exercises
focusing on what would be better for my child. They went as far to ask
if I'd marry the guy who got me pregnant and I laughed at them and told
them no way. They tried to get me to think of who I could marry. I told
them nobody that I wasn't getting married just because I was pregnant.
I remember this one video they showed me that had three different
girls....one married the guy who got her pregnant, another placed her
baby and the other I can't remember. They all talked about how it
affected them. After this video they asked me what I thought and I told
them that I didn't connect to these girls at all. They were all church
going girls who had a slip up....I was hitting up the bars every other
weekend drinking, smoking and living life. I think they were getting
annoyed with me though because I was stubborn and there was no way that I
was going to let these people bully me into placing my baby for
adoption I saw right through them.
They arranged for me to meet two girls who did place their babies for
adoption. There was another girl there with her bf to meet with these
girls. I was 7 months pregnant by this time and was pretty sure I had
made my mind up on keeping my son but hadn't told them yet. The girls
shared their story and experience and showed us the albums as they both
had open adoptions. I looked at one of the girl's pictures of the little
boy she had given up sitting in a pile of leaves and it was at that
moment that something hit me and told me I was making the right decision
keeping my son.
After they asked us what we were leaning more towards. I told them I was
planning on keeping my son and they asked why. I told them I couldn't
give him up, that things happen for a reason and I feel there was a
reason I was having this baby. When they asked the other girl she said
that she really didn't want to give her baby up and than her bf shot her
a look and she said but it's what we've decided. I felt sorry for
her...my heart went out to this girl who obviously felt like she didn't
have a say. It felt like everyone was making the decision for her and
had pressured her this was the best decision. I don't know what she
decided.....I didn't have a chance to ask. The lady from the counseling
services told me she would arrange for me to meet a mom who kept her
child to hear her story. It never happened she felt that they couldn't
help me anymore as I had made my decision. Never heard from them again
and never bothered contacting them ever. It felt as though because they
didn't get what they wanted it was time to just leave me and move onto
the next.
My son is now 4 and is amazing. My bf who I have been dating on and off
since my son was about 4 months old has stepped up and is his dad. Maybe
he won't be around forever...maybe we won't get married, but when they
tell you nobody wants to marry a single mom they're full of lies. I've
dated since having my son and have met many wonderful guys who it
doesn't bother them. Of course they're all non members and are so much
more open minded to life. My best friend is a mormon and I don't like to
talk bad about the religion but since my experience with the church I
don't bother. I don't go. My aunts, uncles, grandma are members and it
took them a bit but they've all accepted my son and I'm sure behind
closed doors don't agree with what my choice was but they don't treat my
son different. Now one of my cousins is expecting a baby and lucky for
her the church didn't get involved as she's in the states and I assume
it's worse down there than here. I'm sure her mom learned from my
experience and decided not to contact the church about it.
That's my story and what I went through. I feel for those moms who feel
like they have to place their babies for adoption because the church
tells them it is right. I can't picture my life without my son. He saved
me. If it wasn't for him I'd still be living my dead end life hitting
up the bars all the time. Now I enjoy life again and he makes me so
happy. One day I will tell him what I went through and one day he'll ask
about religion. He'll get to make that decision on his own though. I
was never given the choice of what religion I wanted to be and my son
will have that choice.
I haven't met or talked to anyone who went through what I did and it's
nice to know there are others. None of my family or friends can relate
and I find it hard some days because until you actually go through the
whole thing you don't know what it feels like to basically feel like you
were used by people because they wanted your baby.
Have a great day!"
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Monday, May 19, 2008
My Patriarchal Blessing
*Note: I remember when I received my 'Patriarchal
Blessing' in 2002: that I did not feel the Spirit whatsoever, I was
uncomfortable trying to remain perfectly still, and I had a slight
feeling that the Patriarch was making the whole thing up as he went
along. (Which I later felt guilty for and reprimanded myself over,
convinced that it must have been a 'holy' experience.)
There was also the Patriarch's wife - if I recall correctly - who was there and tape recorded the entire session, asking the question "Do you say that to everyone?" about being a 'Heavenly Queen', after the session was done.
What is a Patriarchal Blessing?
For those who may be unaware, a Patriarchal Blessing is a blessing/ordinance given by an LDS Patriarch to 'worthy LDS members'. It's supposedly modeled after the blessings that Abraham gave to his sons. Here are some of the stated 'purposes' for a Patriarchal Blessing:
1) Identify which "Tribe of Israel" the LDS member belongs to.
2) Bless the LDS member with 'knowledge and spiritual gifts'.
3) Give advice, especially about the future.
The Patriarch lays his hands upon the LDS member's head, and receives direct revelation from God, concerning that one individual, which he goes on to give as a 'Blessing'. The blessing is recorded and then later translated to a paper copy, which is given to LDS members. All LDS members are assured of the promises given in the Blessing, as long as they are 'worthy' of them throughout life. (So basically if anything fails to fit, it's your own fault somehow.)
LDS members are told to regularly consult their Blessing and re-read it for guidance, assurance, and advice. Most LDS members receive their blessing in their late teens, mostly those who were raised in the church.
My Patriarchal Blessing:
"Galatian", having been commissioned of Jesus Christ and ordained a Patriarch in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I lay my hands upon your head and give you your Patriarchal Blessing. This blessing will be a guide to you in your life and help you to prepare yourself for exaltation and eternal life in the Celestial Kingdom of God. It is important for you to realize that because of your faithfulness in the preexistence, the Lord has given you the encouragement and a suggestion as to how you may alfter your life to be in harmony with the principles of the gospel.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to know that you are of the House of Israel. Your membership in the House of Israel grants you the privilege of all the blessings of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the Patriarchs of old. Your lineage is through Ephraim and therefore you have the additional responsibility to help prepare the earth for the Second Coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ when He will rule and reign upon the earth and when the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you as you seek to find your way in life that you will find the Church and its teachings to be a great blessing in your life. Your association with many of the saints of God will be a lifting experience in your life and help you to emulate the principles of righteous living that will best serve you. Look to those who are committed and converted to the gospel as role models. Follow them, and thus you will be in good stead. Serve with all your heart, might, mind and strength so that these principles may be distilled into your life. Thus your life may be altered sufficiently so that you may have the grace of God in all things, at all times, and in all places.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you in your temporal living that you will take every opportunity to better your situation, educationally and temporally. Seek of the Lord mightily in fasting and prayer that you may have direction and guidance in your life and that you may choose educational and vocational pursuits which will best suit your needs to take care of your temporal living and your obligations unto your fellow men.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to know that during your lifetime you will have the opportunity to preach the gospel to your associates. The Lord will place people in your path at various times and in various places who are seeking principles which you have espoused by your acceptance of baptism into the Kingdom. They will see in you a Latter-day Saint young woman who is different from the world and therefore ask questions. Be solicitous in your response when directed by the Spirit that your mouth may be opened and you may speak the words which are placed in your mind so that the process of conversion may take place amongst those with whom you are associating. You will have the privilege of serving in various capacities in the Kingdom and this will give you the opportunity of solidifying your knowledge of the gospel and your understanding of the principles of the Kingdom. In the Relief Society organization you will have the opportunity of developing the talents which the Lord has given you. These talents may be unknown to you at the present time but as you develop and grow in the Kingdom they will be made manifest unto you because of your cries unto the Lord for help and deliverance from the various tasks that will be placed upon your shoulders. You are a multi-talented individual and you need to know that the Lord requires that you develop these talents to the best of your ability that you may be of service in the Kingdom and help you move forward in this great work which has been placed in the hands of the Latter-day Saints.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to prepare for the time when you can go to the House of the Lord and receive your temple endowment and be sealed to a faithful Priesthood bearer for time and eternity. Your helpmate and companion will be a great source of strength to you as you develop together and as you espouse principles of faithfulness to each other. Your service in the temple will be one of the most enjoyable experiences of your life. You will serve long and with great joy.
Dear "Galatian", there are many of your ancestors who look to you for their salvation. Because you have joined the Church, they stand at the doors of the prisons looking out and crying unto you that you seek after them and place their names upon the alters of the temple. It is certainly important for you to have the spirit of Elijah in your life. Thus you may help save the souls of those who have gone before you. Place their names upon the alters of the temples so they may be released from their spirit prison. Then they, too, may eke out their eternal salvation.
Dear "Galatian", I bless your body that it will be strong and healthy and that you will have the ability to resist disease and illness. I bless you that you will have the strength to carry the burdens which will be placed upon your shoulders. You will also have the wisdom to be able to sort through the things which are burdens and which are responsibilities.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to be free from harm and the accident on the highways and byways of life. Observe rules of decency in your travels that you may listen to the Spirit and be directed and protected from danger.
Dear "Galatian", it is important for you as one who has embraced the Gospel of Jesus Christ to study the scriptures on a daily basis. Become familiar with the doctrines in the Kingdom. Don't waste any time in frivolous activities but become serious in mind in studying the teachings of the Saviour and the doctrines of the Kingdom. You will have the opportunity of teaching in the Church and your studies will stand you in good stead to be one who is authoritative and true in teaching and promoting gospel principles.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you in your associations with your young friends. As you grow on into adulthood, you will have harmony and peace and joy in those associations where your friends will be a strength unto you and you, in turn, will be a strength unto them.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to be cognizant of your responsibility to keep yourself morally clean, to live the Word of Wisdom, to pay a full and honest tithing and to live the commandments of God. I give you the power over the adversary that you may do these things. Sometimes it will be a sacrifice to pay your tithes and offerings, but remember the admonition of our Prophet -- render unto God that which is God's and He will take care of the rest.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you that you will live a long and fruitful life of service, of kindness and compassion so that when your life is through your associates will say of you that you spent your time in doing good upon the earth and did not mar your life with unrighteous activities.
Dear "Galatian", I seal this blessing upon your through your faithfulness and through your worthiness giving you the power to come forward in the Morning of the First Resurrection where you will be united with your loved ones for time and eternity and take your place upon a throne as a queen in the Celestial Kingdom of God.
Dear "Galatian", I seal this blessing upon you in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
Conclusion:
Through that long ramble of hot air, I can see nothing of real value. It's all very generic, it could apply to literally anyone, and half of it is common sense - ex: pursue an education, decency in travels, etc. Typing this out I remember a couple things clearly:
a) Being disappointed in the talk about the Relief Society Organization as I never liked it and never wanted much to do with it.
b) Feeling guilty that I had not yet done Temple Work for my deceased relatives, after hearing they were all in "Spirit Prison" and awaiting ME (the only LDS family member ever) to do the work for them!
Mostly, it's pure crap. It might as well have come from a fortune cookie, 8 Ball, or hand plucked from a large pile of memorized, long-winded speeches.
If you managed to read even MOST of that -- I tip my hat to you! Boring, isn't it?
There was also the Patriarch's wife - if I recall correctly - who was there and tape recorded the entire session, asking the question "Do you say that to everyone?" about being a 'Heavenly Queen', after the session was done.
What is a Patriarchal Blessing?
For those who may be unaware, a Patriarchal Blessing is a blessing/ordinance given by an LDS Patriarch to 'worthy LDS members'. It's supposedly modeled after the blessings that Abraham gave to his sons. Here are some of the stated 'purposes' for a Patriarchal Blessing:
1) Identify which "Tribe of Israel" the LDS member belongs to.
2) Bless the LDS member with 'knowledge and spiritual gifts'.
3) Give advice, especially about the future.
The Patriarch lays his hands upon the LDS member's head, and receives direct revelation from God, concerning that one individual, which he goes on to give as a 'Blessing'. The blessing is recorded and then later translated to a paper copy, which is given to LDS members. All LDS members are assured of the promises given in the Blessing, as long as they are 'worthy' of them throughout life. (So basically if anything fails to fit, it's your own fault somehow.)
LDS members are told to regularly consult their Blessing and re-read it for guidance, assurance, and advice. Most LDS members receive their blessing in their late teens, mostly those who were raised in the church.
My Patriarchal Blessing:
"Galatian", having been commissioned of Jesus Christ and ordained a Patriarch in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I lay my hands upon your head and give you your Patriarchal Blessing. This blessing will be a guide to you in your life and help you to prepare yourself for exaltation and eternal life in the Celestial Kingdom of God. It is important for you to realize that because of your faithfulness in the preexistence, the Lord has given you the encouragement and a suggestion as to how you may alfter your life to be in harmony with the principles of the gospel.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to know that you are of the House of Israel. Your membership in the House of Israel grants you the privilege of all the blessings of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the Patriarchs of old. Your lineage is through Ephraim and therefore you have the additional responsibility to help prepare the earth for the Second Coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ when He will rule and reign upon the earth and when the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you as you seek to find your way in life that you will find the Church and its teachings to be a great blessing in your life. Your association with many of the saints of God will be a lifting experience in your life and help you to emulate the principles of righteous living that will best serve you. Look to those who are committed and converted to the gospel as role models. Follow them, and thus you will be in good stead. Serve with all your heart, might, mind and strength so that these principles may be distilled into your life. Thus your life may be altered sufficiently so that you may have the grace of God in all things, at all times, and in all places.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you in your temporal living that you will take every opportunity to better your situation, educationally and temporally. Seek of the Lord mightily in fasting and prayer that you may have direction and guidance in your life and that you may choose educational and vocational pursuits which will best suit your needs to take care of your temporal living and your obligations unto your fellow men.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to know that during your lifetime you will have the opportunity to preach the gospel to your associates. The Lord will place people in your path at various times and in various places who are seeking principles which you have espoused by your acceptance of baptism into the Kingdom. They will see in you a Latter-day Saint young woman who is different from the world and therefore ask questions. Be solicitous in your response when directed by the Spirit that your mouth may be opened and you may speak the words which are placed in your mind so that the process of conversion may take place amongst those with whom you are associating. You will have the privilege of serving in various capacities in the Kingdom and this will give you the opportunity of solidifying your knowledge of the gospel and your understanding of the principles of the Kingdom. In the Relief Society organization you will have the opportunity of developing the talents which the Lord has given you. These talents may be unknown to you at the present time but as you develop and grow in the Kingdom they will be made manifest unto you because of your cries unto the Lord for help and deliverance from the various tasks that will be placed upon your shoulders. You are a multi-talented individual and you need to know that the Lord requires that you develop these talents to the best of your ability that you may be of service in the Kingdom and help you move forward in this great work which has been placed in the hands of the Latter-day Saints.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to prepare for the time when you can go to the House of the Lord and receive your temple endowment and be sealed to a faithful Priesthood bearer for time and eternity. Your helpmate and companion will be a great source of strength to you as you develop together and as you espouse principles of faithfulness to each other. Your service in the temple will be one of the most enjoyable experiences of your life. You will serve long and with great joy.
Dear "Galatian", there are many of your ancestors who look to you for their salvation. Because you have joined the Church, they stand at the doors of the prisons looking out and crying unto you that you seek after them and place their names upon the alters of the temple. It is certainly important for you to have the spirit of Elijah in your life. Thus you may help save the souls of those who have gone before you. Place their names upon the alters of the temples so they may be released from their spirit prison. Then they, too, may eke out their eternal salvation.
Dear "Galatian", I bless your body that it will be strong and healthy and that you will have the ability to resist disease and illness. I bless you that you will have the strength to carry the burdens which will be placed upon your shoulders. You will also have the wisdom to be able to sort through the things which are burdens and which are responsibilities.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to be free from harm and the accident on the highways and byways of life. Observe rules of decency in your travels that you may listen to the Spirit and be directed and protected from danger.
Dear "Galatian", it is important for you as one who has embraced the Gospel of Jesus Christ to study the scriptures on a daily basis. Become familiar with the doctrines in the Kingdom. Don't waste any time in frivolous activities but become serious in mind in studying the teachings of the Saviour and the doctrines of the Kingdom. You will have the opportunity of teaching in the Church and your studies will stand you in good stead to be one who is authoritative and true in teaching and promoting gospel principles.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you in your associations with your young friends. As you grow on into adulthood, you will have harmony and peace and joy in those associations where your friends will be a strength unto you and you, in turn, will be a strength unto them.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you to be cognizant of your responsibility to keep yourself morally clean, to live the Word of Wisdom, to pay a full and honest tithing and to live the commandments of God. I give you the power over the adversary that you may do these things. Sometimes it will be a sacrifice to pay your tithes and offerings, but remember the admonition of our Prophet -- render unto God that which is God's and He will take care of the rest.
Dear "Galatian", I bless you that you will live a long and fruitful life of service, of kindness and compassion so that when your life is through your associates will say of you that you spent your time in doing good upon the earth and did not mar your life with unrighteous activities.
Dear "Galatian", I seal this blessing upon your through your faithfulness and through your worthiness giving you the power to come forward in the Morning of the First Resurrection where you will be united with your loved ones for time and eternity and take your place upon a throne as a queen in the Celestial Kingdom of God.
Dear "Galatian", I seal this blessing upon you in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
Conclusion:
Through that long ramble of hot air, I can see nothing of real value. It's all very generic, it could apply to literally anyone, and half of it is common sense - ex: pursue an education, decency in travels, etc. Typing this out I remember a couple things clearly:
a) Being disappointed in the talk about the Relief Society Organization as I never liked it and never wanted much to do with it.
b) Feeling guilty that I had not yet done Temple Work for my deceased relatives, after hearing they were all in "Spirit Prison" and awaiting ME (the only LDS family member ever) to do the work for them!
Mostly, it's pure crap. It might as well have come from a fortune cookie, 8 Ball, or hand plucked from a large pile of memorized, long-winded speeches.
If you managed to read even MOST of that -- I tip my hat to you! Boring, isn't it?
Sunday, May 18, 2008
The Secret Lives of Saints (by Daphne Bramham)
The United States is not the only country faced with the problem of
modern day polygamy. It also occurs in Canada, and has been ignored by
politicians, law enforcement, and the public at large. Atrocities carry
on under our noses, and yet nothing is done. Here is an excerpt of the
book:
"Polygamy has been illegal in Canada and the United States since 1890. But fundamentalist Mormonism is thriving in Utah, Arizona, Texas and British Columbia. There are dozens of different groups and thousands of so-called independents, which makes it impossible to know how many fundamentalists there are. Estimates range from thirty-seven thousand to one million across the continent, yet politicians have been loath to do anything about the people who call themselves Saints. Politicians have not just looked the other way, they have in many instances made it easier for the Saints' leaders to intimidate, control and abuse their followers. Nowhere is that more obvious than in Bountiful, British Columbia, and in the twin towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona.
"Polygamy has been illegal in Canada and the United States since 1890. But fundamentalist Mormonism is thriving in Utah, Arizona, Texas and British Columbia. There are dozens of different groups and thousands of so-called independents, which makes it impossible to know how many fundamentalists there are. Estimates range from thirty-seven thousand to one million across the continent, yet politicians have been loath to do anything about the people who call themselves Saints. Politicians have not just looked the other way, they have in many instances made it easier for the Saints' leaders to intimidate, control and abuse their followers. Nowhere is that more obvious than in Bountiful, British Columbia, and in the twin towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona.
In
1992, the B.C. government refused to enforce Canada's law by charging
the bishop of Bountiful, Winston Blackmore, with polygamy. Citing
studies by several leading legal experts, the B.C. government said the
law would not withstand a challenge under the Canadian Charter of Rights
and Freedoms, which, along with the national Constitution, guarantees
freedom of religion and association.
Those
rights, however, are not unlimited. Twice since its decision not to
prosecute polygamy, the B.C. government has successfully gone to court
to force children of Jehovah's Witnesses to submit to blood
transfusions, even though that goes against their beliefs. The
government's argument: religious belief cannot override a child's right
to health.
There are other
conflicting rights. In 1879, in a landmark case called Reynolds versus
United States, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that governments can
intervene where the religious practice of polygamy undermines the rights
of others. "Suppose one believed that human sacrifices were a necessary
part of religious worship, would it be seriously contended that the
civil government under which he lived could not interfere to prevent a
sacrifice? Or if a wife religiously believed it was her duty to burn
herself upon the funeral pile [sic] of her dead husband, would it be
beyond the power of the civil government to prevent her carrying her
belief into practice?" The justices unanimously answered, "No."
Yet
in 1992, the B.C. government effectively legalized polygamy. Since then
Bountiful's population has more than tripled. In Utah and Arizona also,
politicians have been loath to prosecute polygamists after a failed
attempt to do so in 1953. The FLDS population in both states has doubled
every decade since. To say that the Saints place a high value on large
families is something of an understatement.
Unlike
Christians, who believe that the soul comes to the body at birth and
leaves the body at death, the Saints believe in both a pre-mortal
existence and the "lifting up" of the earthly body into heaven. They
believe millions of spirits are waiting to be born into earthly bodies.
And, as God's Chosen People, they believe they have a responsibility to
bring as many of those spirits as possible into the world as
Mormons-rather than as something less worthy. As Joseph Smith's friend
and apostle Orson Pratt wrote, "The Lord has not kept them [the spirits]
in store for five or six thousand years past and kept them waiting for
their bodies all this time to send them among the Hottentots, the
African negroes, the idolatrous Hindoos or any other fallen nations that
dwell upon the face of the Earth."
Emboldened
by the failure of governments to prosecute, Canadian polygamist Winston
Blackmore no longer hides. A second-generation leader and one of North
America's best-known and wealthiest polygamists, Blackmore makes no
secret of the fact that he has many wives. How many, he won't say. But
some of his wives, those who have left him, say that he has been married
twenty-six times and has more than one hundred children.
On
at least two occasions, Blackmore-a spiritual leader, superintendent of
a government-supported school and respected businessman-has publicly
confessed to having sex with girls who were only fifteen and sixteen
years old. That's a criminal offence in Canada. His first admission was
in 2005 at a "polygamy summit" organized by his wives in Creston, B.C.
Nobody said or did anything when he said he'd married "very young girls"
because God and the prophet had told him to. Blackmore has yet to be
charged.
Sexual abuse and
exploitation of children by teachers and church leaders of all faiths
usually lands on the front page of newspapers across North America, but
Blackmore's confession did not make the national media and wasn't even
reported in the Creston newspaper. Blackmore repeated his confession in
December 2006 during an interview on the Cable News Network (CNN) with
Larry King. Blackmore said he hadn't realized that one of his wives was
only fifteen when they'd married. She had lied about her age, Blackmore
said. But all women do that, don't they? he asked King.
Girls
may well lie about their age; middle-aged, balding men often do as
well. But that's why there are laws to protect children. It's no defence
for a predator such as a bishop or a school superintendent to say that
he didn't know the girl was only fifteen. It's our society's shame that
the laws are not always enforced."
Galatian's Note:
I ask all Canadian residents to please purchase this book, and become informed about what is happening in our own country!
Escape (by Carolyn Jessop)
Take a look at modern day "fundamentalist Mormonism", which
literally follows the teachings of Joseph Smith to the letter. While the
mainstream Mormon church has changed its teachings to fit with modern
times -- this is what the Joseph Smith and Brigham Young eras of LDS
life would have been like. It's what life is like today, following their
example. Here's an excerpt:
"I was born into six generations of polygamy on my mother's side and started life in Hildale, Utah, in a fundamentalist Mormon community known as the FLDS, or the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Polygamy was the issue that defined us and the reason we'd split from the mainstream Mormon Church.
My childhood memories really begin in Salt Lake City. We moved there when I was about five. Even though my parents believed in polygamy, my father had only one wife. He owned a small real estate business that was doing well and decided it made sense to use Salt Lake as a base. We had a lovely house with a porch swing and a landscaped yard and trees. This was a big change from the tiny house in Colorado City with dirt and weeds in the yard and a father who was rarely home.
But the biggest difference in moving to Salt Lake City was that my mother, Nurylon, was happy. She loved the city and delighted in having my father home every night after work. My dad was doing well, and Mom had enough money to buy plenty of groceries when we went to the store and even had some extra for toys.
There were soon four of us. I had two sisters, Linda and Annette. I was in the middle-Linda was eighteen months older than I and Annette two years younger. My baby brother Arthur arrived a few years after Annette. My mother was thrilled to finally have a son because in our culture, boys have more value than girls. Linda and my mother were very close. But my mother always seemed very irritated by me, in part, I think, because I was my father's favorite.
I adored my dad, Arthur Blackmore. He was tall and thin, with large bones and dark, wavy hair. I remember that whenever we were around other families I thought I had the best-looking father in the entire world. I saw him as my personal protector and felt safe when I was in his presence. His face lit up when I entered the room; I was always the daughter he wanted to introduce when friends visited our house. My mother complained that he didn't discipline me as much as he did my sister Linda, but he ignored her and didn't seem to care.
We only lived in Salt Lake City for a year, but it was a happy one. Mother took us to the zoo and to the park, where we'd play on the swings and slides. My father's business was successful and expanding. But he decided we needed to move back to Colorado City, Arizona-a tiny, nondescript FLDS enclave about 350 miles south of Salt Lake City and a stone's throw from Hildale, Utah, where I was born. The reason we went back was that he didn't want my sister Linda attending a regular public school. Even though she would technically be going to a public school in Colorado City, most of the teachers there were FLDS and very conservative. In theory, at least, religion is not to be taught in public schools, but in fact it was an integral part of the curriculum there.
When we returned to Colorado City, my father put an addition onto our house. There was more space to live in, but life became more claustrophobic. Mother changed. When we got up in the morning, she would still be sleeping. My father was on the road a lot now, so she was home alone. When we tried to wake her up, she'd tell us to go back to bed.
She'd finally surface midmorning and come into the kitchen to make us breakfast and talk about how much she wanted to die. While she made us hot cornmeal cereal, toast, or pancakes she'd complain about having nothing to live for and how she'd rather be dead. Those were the good mornings. The really awful mornings were the ones when she'd talk about how she was going to kill herself that day.
I remember how terrified I felt wondering what would happen to us if my mother killed herself. Who'd take care of us? Father was gone nearly all the time. One morning I asked my mother, "Mama, if a mother dies, what will happen to her children? Who will take care of them?"
I don't think Mother noticed my urgency. She had no idea of the impact her words had been having on me. I think she felt my question arose from a general curiosity about dying. Mother was very matter-of-fact in responding to me: "Oh, the children will be all right. The priesthood will give their father a new wife. The new wife will take care of them."
By this time I was about six. I looked at her and said, "Mama, I think that Dad better hurry up and get a new wife."
I was beginning to notice other things about the world around me. One was that some of the women we'd see in the community when we went shopping were wearing dark sunglasses. I was surprised when a woman took her glasses off in the grocery store and I could see that both her eyes were blackened. I asked my mother what was wrong, but the question seemed to make her uncomfortable and she didn't answer me. My curiosity was piqued, however, and every time I saw a woman in dark glasses, I stared at her to see if they were covering strange, mottled bruises."
Galatian's Note:
Please support Carolyn Jessop by buying her book, reading her story, and sharing it with others. Let's not forget the horrible existence that women and children are living through even today - thanks to the cruel teachings of early LDS leaders.
"I was born into six generations of polygamy on my mother's side and started life in Hildale, Utah, in a fundamentalist Mormon community known as the FLDS, or the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Polygamy was the issue that defined us and the reason we'd split from the mainstream Mormon Church.
My childhood memories really begin in Salt Lake City. We moved there when I was about five. Even though my parents believed in polygamy, my father had only one wife. He owned a small real estate business that was doing well and decided it made sense to use Salt Lake as a base. We had a lovely house with a porch swing and a landscaped yard and trees. This was a big change from the tiny house in Colorado City with dirt and weeds in the yard and a father who was rarely home.
But the biggest difference in moving to Salt Lake City was that my mother, Nurylon, was happy. She loved the city and delighted in having my father home every night after work. My dad was doing well, and Mom had enough money to buy plenty of groceries when we went to the store and even had some extra for toys.
There were soon four of us. I had two sisters, Linda and Annette. I was in the middle-Linda was eighteen months older than I and Annette two years younger. My baby brother Arthur arrived a few years after Annette. My mother was thrilled to finally have a son because in our culture, boys have more value than girls. Linda and my mother were very close. But my mother always seemed very irritated by me, in part, I think, because I was my father's favorite.
I adored my dad, Arthur Blackmore. He was tall and thin, with large bones and dark, wavy hair. I remember that whenever we were around other families I thought I had the best-looking father in the entire world. I saw him as my personal protector and felt safe when I was in his presence. His face lit up when I entered the room; I was always the daughter he wanted to introduce when friends visited our house. My mother complained that he didn't discipline me as much as he did my sister Linda, but he ignored her and didn't seem to care.
We only lived in Salt Lake City for a year, but it was a happy one. Mother took us to the zoo and to the park, where we'd play on the swings and slides. My father's business was successful and expanding. But he decided we needed to move back to Colorado City, Arizona-a tiny, nondescript FLDS enclave about 350 miles south of Salt Lake City and a stone's throw from Hildale, Utah, where I was born. The reason we went back was that he didn't want my sister Linda attending a regular public school. Even though she would technically be going to a public school in Colorado City, most of the teachers there were FLDS and very conservative. In theory, at least, religion is not to be taught in public schools, but in fact it was an integral part of the curriculum there.
When we returned to Colorado City, my father put an addition onto our house. There was more space to live in, but life became more claustrophobic. Mother changed. When we got up in the morning, she would still be sleeping. My father was on the road a lot now, so she was home alone. When we tried to wake her up, she'd tell us to go back to bed.
She'd finally surface midmorning and come into the kitchen to make us breakfast and talk about how much she wanted to die. While she made us hot cornmeal cereal, toast, or pancakes she'd complain about having nothing to live for and how she'd rather be dead. Those were the good mornings. The really awful mornings were the ones when she'd talk about how she was going to kill herself that day.
I remember how terrified I felt wondering what would happen to us if my mother killed herself. Who'd take care of us? Father was gone nearly all the time. One morning I asked my mother, "Mama, if a mother dies, what will happen to her children? Who will take care of them?"
I don't think Mother noticed my urgency. She had no idea of the impact her words had been having on me. I think she felt my question arose from a general curiosity about dying. Mother was very matter-of-fact in responding to me: "Oh, the children will be all right. The priesthood will give their father a new wife. The new wife will take care of them."
By this time I was about six. I looked at her and said, "Mama, I think that Dad better hurry up and get a new wife."
I was beginning to notice other things about the world around me. One was that some of the women we'd see in the community when we went shopping were wearing dark sunglasses. I was surprised when a woman took her glasses off in the grocery store and I could see that both her eyes were blackened. I asked my mother what was wrong, but the question seemed to make her uncomfortable and she didn't answer me. My curiosity was piqued, however, and every time I saw a woman in dark glasses, I stared at her to see if they were covering strange, mottled bruises."
Galatian's Note:
Please support Carolyn Jessop by buying her book, reading her story, and sharing it with others. Let's not forget the horrible existence that women and children are living through even today - thanks to the cruel teachings of early LDS leaders.
Wednesday, February 6, 2008
Thomas S. Monson: New President
Well to no body's surprise, Thomas S. Monson is the new President and presiding Prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
To read a brief history on Monson, see the Wikipedia article: HERE.
Unknown to many Latter Day Saints, Monson has a few skeletons in his closet, which I will be helping to divulge in this article. Here it goes ...
THE VALUES INSTITUTE
During the midst of a second major purge of homosexuals at BYU in the 1970's, the "Institute for Studies in Values and Human Behaviour" was formed; in short it is known as the 'Values Institute'.
The idea was proposed by Dallin Oaks at a meeting (of the Boards of Trustees at BYU, and the Unified Church Educational System) on September 1, 1976.
The purpose of the Values Institute was kept a secret from the general public, but generally comprised of: combating homosexuality, doing research on homosexuality, fighting homosexuality within the church, and writing a book to verify the LDS church's position on homosexuality.
The public was only told that it would conduct "research that would assist in preventing and changing problem behaviors which lead people away from eternal life." The Values Institute was to be provided resources and assistance from LDS Social Services.
The first main goal of the Values Institute was to produce a manuscript "which would set forth significant empirical evidence in support of the Church's position on homosexuality." The book was to be written by Bergin and Victor L. Brown Jr. (of LDS Social Services), approved by a General Authority, published by a popular Eastern Press, and have no appearance of a connection with the church. Then the book was going to be used as "secular evidence" to back up LDS Church claims on homosexuality.
Other goals of the Values Institute were:
1) Reviewing homosexual "indoctrination" created by public gay protest and opposition.
2) Anti-gay papers & rebuttals.
3) Supporting research to vindicate LDS Church positions on homosexuality.
4) Creating church policies to combat homosexuality and 'sexual misconduct'.
Over the course of time, the Values Institute members worked on writing the book, other articles, researching, and collaborating. (There is too much to condense on this subject)
On November 17th, 1978 a two hour presentation was made before the First Presidency, and then after that was made before all the General Authorities and BYU president Dallin Oaks - concerning the manuscript for the 'anti-gay' book.
In March of 1979, Marion G. Romney asked Thomas S. Monson to get a concrete budget for the Values Institute. (Which they did, and I might add that all of the money to fund the Values Institute and its projects were received directly from tithing funds paid by LDS members).
Values Institute leaders met with Thomas S. Monson (and unknown others) on August 9, 1979 to ask formal approval to write an 'anti-gay' book for publication, and related articles. Monson and the committee agreed with the proposal and recommended it to the First Presidency on August 10, 1979 - where it was formally approved.
As time passed and things went sour with the Values Institute -- Dallin Oaks wrote to Thomas S. Monson on September 3, 1979 to explain the many problems and his irritation. And so, in 1980 the Values Institute was disbanded, after spending $150,000 of tithing funds from LDS members.
"AVERSION THERAPY AT BYU"
I won't get into it in extreme detail, as that is for another day -- but as early as the 1960's, aversion "therapies" were conducted at BYU, which continued on for several decades, and were notably in practice in the 1970's when the Values Institute was operational.
BYU professor D. Eugene Thorne oversaw the therapies.
Some examples of the "therapy" practices were:
MONSON PARTICIPATION ...
I had an irate Mormon write to me regarding one of my YouTube videos ("Images from Mormon History") because at one point I showed a photo of Thomas S. Monson and wrote that he "helped to found the Values Institute" at BYU. This man took issue with this, claiming he had never heard of the Values Institute, nor did he know of any Monson-connection.
Let me make this perfectly clear:
The Values Institute is WELL-DOCUMENTED and is factual. It did exist, and we know all about it; we have documents, memos, testimonies, etc.
The Aversion Therapies done at BYU for decades are WELL-DOCUMENTED (for all of the reasons I just mentioned above).
And thankfully, we have evidence of connections in all this disgusting corruption and inhumanity, because memos and documents have survived. Some of these link to certain individuals, with Thomas S. Monson being one of them!
So what evidence do we have of Thomas S. Monson's involvement in these scandals?
* There's also a history of many other things as well (which are too much to relate), and we know that Thomas S. Monson, Gordon B. Hinckley, Victor L. Brown, Boyd K. Packer, and Kenneth H. Beesley all met for a meeting in response to the infamous "Payne Papers".
That also shows us that Monson was aware of everything that was going on at BYU because he knew about the Payne Papers (a student written paper distributed school wide in defense of homosexuality), he knew -- as General Authorities were made aware-- of the Chipman case and other activities and scandals that were occuring at the school.
There can be no doubt that Thomas S. Monson knew all about BYU's treatment of homosexuals, which included: aversion "therapies", sting-operations, purges, suicides, police investigations, harrassment, student-on-student spying, and more!
We have documents linking him to the Values Institute and approving its related projects, and a BYU Executive Committee Meeting Minutes document relating to a church response (including his personally) to the Payne Papers, etc.
*** Everyone please research about: the history of BYU's treatment of homosexuals; all its scandals, the Values Institute, Evergreen International (currently operational), shock-therapy, the Payne Papers, the Chipman case, the suicides, etc. ***
CONCLUSION
I can only imagine what other cookie jars Monson has dipped his hands into, and what other skeletons lie in his closet. We would never have known about his connection to all of this if we didn't have the documents, memos, and other evidence linking him to it.
Otherwise it would be flat out denials from his camp, and Mormons crying afoul about how ex-mormons are lying and have no evidence, etc.
Any thinking and compassionate person should be outraged at Monson's treatment of gays -- especially within the LDS Church-- and of his previous support in: harassing them, purging them, therapies for them, driving them to suicide and social ruin, helping to found and fund the Values Institute, and supporting unscientific, undocumented, bigoted and hateful rumors, and unsubstantiated theories about homosexual people.
We have discovered what the "S" in Monson's name stands for -- Shocktherapy!
From now on, let us all dub him:
Resources:
"The Abominable and Detestable Crime Against Nature": A Revised History of Homosexuality & Mormonism, 1840-1980: BY Connell O'Donovan
[Documentation, footnotes and references confirming and validating the statements written in this article can be found numbered throughout the book, and listed at the end of the website.]
*Please Note: The above book was published by Signature Books, but is viewable for free via the link above. It is an EXCELLENT book that I cannot recommend enough, which covers a large history of homosexuality in the LDS church, and specifically at BYU, etc.
Specifically (for more current events) I recommend the sections:
Commie Pinko Queers: The "Boys of Boise" and Salt Lake Scandals
"The Lord's Program": Kimball and Petersen Attack (followed by:)
"Hope for Transgressors" & "New Horizons for Homosexuals" (later aka "A Letter to a Friend")
ANTI-HOMOSEXUAL POLICIES AT BYU (1957-1980) (followed by:)
The Suicides of 1965 & The "Witch Hunts of 1968" & The "Witch Hunts of 1975"
The Values Institute
Shocking Events at the Y
The 'Payne Papers' and Prologue
The David Chipman Case
Oaks' 1979 Memo to Monson
1977 BYU Executive Committee Meeting Minutes memo
An online article about 'Evergreen International': CLICK HERE.
Wikipedia article on "Homosexuality and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" (conspicuously missing is any mention of aversion therapy at BYU).
To read a brief history on Monson, see the Wikipedia article: HERE.
Unknown to many Latter Day Saints, Monson has a few skeletons in his closet, which I will be helping to divulge in this article. Here it goes ...
THE VALUES INSTITUTE
During the midst of a second major purge of homosexuals at BYU in the 1970's, the "Institute for Studies in Values and Human Behaviour" was formed; in short it is known as the 'Values Institute'.
The idea was proposed by Dallin Oaks at a meeting (of the Boards of Trustees at BYU, and the Unified Church Educational System) on September 1, 1976.
The purpose of the Values Institute was kept a secret from the general public, but generally comprised of: combating homosexuality, doing research on homosexuality, fighting homosexuality within the church, and writing a book to verify the LDS church's position on homosexuality.
The public was only told that it would conduct "research that would assist in preventing and changing problem behaviors which lead people away from eternal life." The Values Institute was to be provided resources and assistance from LDS Social Services.
The first main goal of the Values Institute was to produce a manuscript "which would set forth significant empirical evidence in support of the Church's position on homosexuality." The book was to be written by Bergin and Victor L. Brown Jr. (of LDS Social Services), approved by a General Authority, published by a popular Eastern Press, and have no appearance of a connection with the church. Then the book was going to be used as "secular evidence" to back up LDS Church claims on homosexuality.
Other goals of the Values Institute were:
1) Reviewing homosexual "indoctrination" created by public gay protest and opposition.
2) Anti-gay papers & rebuttals.
3) Supporting research to vindicate LDS Church positions on homosexuality.
4) Creating church policies to combat homosexuality and 'sexual misconduct'.
Over the course of time, the Values Institute members worked on writing the book, other articles, researching, and collaborating. (There is too much to condense on this subject)
On November 17th, 1978 a two hour presentation was made before the First Presidency, and then after that was made before all the General Authorities and BYU president Dallin Oaks - concerning the manuscript for the 'anti-gay' book.
In March of 1979, Marion G. Romney asked Thomas S. Monson to get a concrete budget for the Values Institute. (Which they did, and I might add that all of the money to fund the Values Institute and its projects were received directly from tithing funds paid by LDS members).
Values Institute leaders met with Thomas S. Monson (and unknown others) on August 9, 1979 to ask formal approval to write an 'anti-gay' book for publication, and related articles. Monson and the committee agreed with the proposal and recommended it to the First Presidency on August 10, 1979 - where it was formally approved.
As time passed and things went sour with the Values Institute -- Dallin Oaks wrote to Thomas S. Monson on September 3, 1979 to explain the many problems and his irritation. And so, in 1980 the Values Institute was disbanded, after spending $150,000 of tithing funds from LDS members.
"AVERSION THERAPY AT BYU"
I won't get into it in extreme detail, as that is for another day -- but as early as the 1960's, aversion "therapies" were conducted at BYU, which continued on for several decades, and were notably in practice in the 1970's when the Values Institute was operational.
BYU professor D. Eugene Thorne oversaw the therapies.
Some examples of the "therapy" practices were:
- Electroshock Therapy (electrodes attached to head, hands, arms, and legs which shocked the patient with electricity)
- Pornography (homosexual and heterosexual pornography which was used in conducting tests, and to try to "cure" the homosexual behavior)
MONSON PARTICIPATION ...
I had an irate Mormon write to me regarding one of my YouTube videos ("Images from Mormon History") because at one point I showed a photo of Thomas S. Monson and wrote that he "helped to found the Values Institute" at BYU. This man took issue with this, claiming he had never heard of the Values Institute, nor did he know of any Monson-connection.
Let me make this perfectly clear:
The Values Institute is WELL-DOCUMENTED and is factual. It did exist, and we know all about it; we have documents, memos, testimonies, etc.
The Aversion Therapies done at BYU for decades are WELL-DOCUMENTED (for all of the reasons I just mentioned above).
And thankfully, we have evidence of connections in all this disgusting corruption and inhumanity, because memos and documents have survived. Some of these link to certain individuals, with Thomas S. Monson being one of them!
So what evidence do we have of Thomas S. Monson's involvement in these scandals?
- The Values Institute was proposed by Oaks at a 'combined meeting' (BYU Trustees and Unified Church Educational System) which would have come to Monson's attention. Even if we assume that it didn't ...
- Monson was present for a 2-hour presentation which outlined the Values Institute and its agenda, including: writing anti-gay material, and publishing a book which was to be used as "secular evidence" to affirm the Church's position (even though it was written by church members) ... dishonestly fooling LDS members, and the general public at large.
- Marion G. Romney wrote to Monson to request funding for the Values Institute.
- Values Institute leaders met with Monson to get formal approval for the anti-gay book and other related projects.
- Monson recommended the Values Institute book and projects to the First Presidency himself, in 1979.
- Dallin Oaks wrote specifically to Monson regarding problems with the Values Institute.
* There's also a history of many other things as well (which are too much to relate), and we know that Thomas S. Monson, Gordon B. Hinckley, Victor L. Brown, Boyd K. Packer, and Kenneth H. Beesley all met for a meeting in response to the infamous "Payne Papers".
That also shows us that Monson was aware of everything that was going on at BYU because he knew about the Payne Papers (a student written paper distributed school wide in defense of homosexuality), he knew -- as General Authorities were made aware-- of the Chipman case and other activities and scandals that were occuring at the school.
There can be no doubt that Thomas S. Monson knew all about BYU's treatment of homosexuals, which included: aversion "therapies", sting-operations, purges, suicides, police investigations, harrassment, student-on-student spying, and more!
We have documents linking him to the Values Institute and approving its related projects, and a BYU Executive Committee Meeting Minutes document relating to a church response (including his personally) to the Payne Papers, etc.
*** Everyone please research about: the history of BYU's treatment of homosexuals; all its scandals, the Values Institute, Evergreen International (currently operational), shock-therapy, the Payne Papers, the Chipman case, the suicides, etc. ***
CONCLUSION
I can only imagine what other cookie jars Monson has dipped his hands into, and what other skeletons lie in his closet. We would never have known about his connection to all of this if we didn't have the documents, memos, and other evidence linking him to it.
Otherwise it would be flat out denials from his camp, and Mormons crying afoul about how ex-mormons are lying and have no evidence, etc.
Any thinking and compassionate person should be outraged at Monson's treatment of gays -- especially within the LDS Church-- and of his previous support in: harassing them, purging them, therapies for them, driving them to suicide and social ruin, helping to found and fund the Values Institute, and supporting unscientific, undocumented, bigoted and hateful rumors, and unsubstantiated theories about homosexual people.
We have discovered what the "S" in Monson's name stands for -- Shocktherapy!
From now on, let us all dub him:
THOMAS "SHOCKTHERAPY" MONSON.
Hey Monson,
when are you going to apologize for your hateful and cruel treatment of
gay people? We're all still waiting! Don't think people have forgotten
about all you've done! We'll be dragging the skeletons out of your
closet one by one for everyone to see ... PREPARE YOURSELF!Resources:
"The Abominable and Detestable Crime Against Nature": A Revised History of Homosexuality & Mormonism, 1840-1980: BY Connell O'Donovan
[Documentation, footnotes and references confirming and validating the statements written in this article can be found numbered throughout the book, and listed at the end of the website.]
*Please Note: The above book was published by Signature Books, but is viewable for free via the link above. It is an EXCELLENT book that I cannot recommend enough, which covers a large history of homosexuality in the LDS church, and specifically at BYU, etc.
Specifically (for more current events) I recommend the sections:
Commie Pinko Queers: The "Boys of Boise" and Salt Lake Scandals
"The Lord's Program": Kimball and Petersen Attack (followed by:)
"Hope for Transgressors" & "New Horizons for Homosexuals" (later aka "A Letter to a Friend")
ANTI-HOMOSEXUAL POLICIES AT BYU (1957-1980) (followed by:)
The Suicides of 1965 & The "Witch Hunts of 1968" & The "Witch Hunts of 1975"
The Values Institute
Shocking Events at the Y
The 'Payne Papers' and Prologue
The David Chipman Case
Oaks' 1979 Memo to Monson
1977 BYU Executive Committee Meeting Minutes memo
An online article about 'Evergreen International': CLICK HERE.
Wikipedia article on "Homosexuality and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" (conspicuously missing is any mention of aversion therapy at BYU).
Monday, February 4, 2008
Mormon "Love"
Ahh ... there's nothing like a little Mormon "love" to lighten up your day!
I just thought that for your personal amusement, I would share some of the comments that Mormons have felt the need to write me ...
A fine display of how a "Christ-like" attitude can warm the hearts of those evil, shallow apostates!
I'll continue to add to this post, as time goes on.
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" ... you stupid faget ass prick ... asswipes like you you piece of shit ... wow u are pathetic you go and make up the crap to try and make a good people loom bad. wel let me tell you something YOU SUCK ..."
" 'Galatian23': Why are you such a bitter person. Had you committed a sin to be cast out of the Church... like your brother Satan did. Sounds like you've joined his cause, and forgotten about Christ. What made you this way?"
"what i think is we need danites in this day and time.porter rockwell and stilman we could use some more like them."
"My guess is that your are bitter against Mormons because they don't except your homosexuality. It is often the case with ex-Mormons anyway."
"G23 Is a liar look up all her references thye are full of holes. Do as the suggest use youre brains and you will see that she isnt about the truth its about hate and bigotry."
"your sick"
" "Galatian23"Youre not only sick. You're disturbed"
"You are being selfish. These children will get to grow up in strong member families! Think of the blessings they will get, their future testimonies. A single parent (and no offense, but you were disobeying the word of God) would not be able to give that to these children. Think of the people that child might convert as a missionary, the children of those converts! One soul raised correctly is an important matter to the Church."
"You are so full of hate I really feel sorry for you and anybody who has to put up with you. I will pray for your salvation as every wright thinking Mormon would. "
"You're lies will haunt you spiritually in this life and in the life to come, unless you Come unto Christ. That is just a friendly warning from one brother to another."
"Mormons are being shot at targeted by hate groups because of these LIES. You need to STOP! THEIR BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will go to Hell for your lying bigotry"
"...and all you are is a closed minded oppressive tryranical miserable totalitarian A-hole. just your pissed because your mommy didn't hold you enough (or someother Cliché) don't take it out on us just to make you feel more important"
"I only regret that there are no Dannites around to take care of the likes of you now. Maybe we could revive it huh?"
"You are just a sorry and angry loser who got kicked out of the church for your stupid, unfounded, baseless ideas. I know you anti Mormon types cannot stomach the truth and it is a real waste of time to argue.
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I can't help but wonder why so many of these Mormons cannot spell properly and have no sense of punctuation. The only logical conclusion is that the majority of them are under 17 years old, or not terribly bright ... and I swear I have not made any of this up, nor have I changed any of the wording at all.
Stay tuned for more heart-warming displays of Mormon love in the future.
(What's most hilarious about this is they all probably give talks on Sunday about forgiveness, love, Christ-like attitudes, but then behind the anonymity of the web they swear, threaten, condemn, harrass and let their true colors show.)
I just thought that for your personal amusement, I would share some of the comments that Mormons have felt the need to write me ...
A fine display of how a "Christ-like" attitude can warm the hearts of those evil, shallow apostates!
I'll continue to add to this post, as time goes on.
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" ... you stupid faget ass prick ... asswipes like you you piece of shit ... wow u are pathetic you go and make up the crap to try and make a good people loom bad. wel let me tell you something YOU SUCK ..."
" 'Galatian23': Why are you such a bitter person. Had you committed a sin to be cast out of the Church... like your brother Satan did. Sounds like you've joined his cause, and forgotten about Christ. What made you this way?"
"what i think is we need danites in this day and time.porter rockwell and stilman we could use some more like them."
"My guess is that your are bitter against Mormons because they don't except your homosexuality. It is often the case with ex-Mormons anyway."
"G23 Is a liar look up all her references thye are full of holes. Do as the suggest use youre brains and you will see that she isnt about the truth its about hate and bigotry."
"your sick"
" "Galatian23"Youre not only sick. You're disturbed"
"You are being selfish. These children will get to grow up in strong member families! Think of the blessings they will get, their future testimonies. A single parent (and no offense, but you were disobeying the word of God) would not be able to give that to these children. Think of the people that child might convert as a missionary, the children of those converts! One soul raised correctly is an important matter to the Church."
"You are so full of hate I really feel sorry for you and anybody who has to put up with you. I will pray for your salvation as every wright thinking Mormon would. "
"You're lies will haunt you spiritually in this life and in the life to come, unless you Come unto Christ. That is just a friendly warning from one brother to another."
"Mormons are being shot at targeted by hate groups because of these LIES. You need to STOP! THEIR BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will go to Hell for your lying bigotry"
"...and all you are is a closed minded oppressive tryranical miserable totalitarian A-hole. just your pissed because your mommy didn't hold you enough (or someother Cliché) don't take it out on us just to make you feel more important"
"I only regret that there are no Dannites around to take care of the likes of you now. Maybe we could revive it huh?"
"You are just a sorry and angry loser who got kicked out of the church for your stupid, unfounded, baseless ideas. I know you anti Mormon types cannot stomach the truth and it is a real waste of time to argue.
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I can't help but wonder why so many of these Mormons cannot spell properly and have no sense of punctuation. The only logical conclusion is that the majority of them are under 17 years old, or not terribly bright ... and I swear I have not made any of this up, nor have I changed any of the wording at all.
Stay tuned for more heart-warming displays of Mormon love in the future.
(What's most hilarious about this is they all probably give talks on Sunday about forgiveness, love, Christ-like attitudes, but then behind the anonymity of the web they swear, threaten, condemn, harrass and let their true colors show.)
Thursday, January 31, 2008
A Typical Conversation
Below, is an email exchange of mine with my good friend J-----. I met J----- as a member of the LDS
church many years ago, and we've stayed in contact despite moves, his
mission, and other things. Recently, after being out of touch for a
while, we reconnected. I told him that I had left the church and about
this blog. Here is what he had to say:
Hi "Galatian",
I tried calling you a few times in the past two weeks but your phone number isn't connected or isn't working right now. I appreciated hearing from you and about how things are going in your life. In regards to your blog, I have not and will not be visiting it.
I can understand that you have gone through a lot of tough times and that it wasn't easy for you to connect with the Church culture. I can also understand that leaders of the Church today and in the early days of the Church have made and will continue to make mistakes (such is life for all of us). You have read some things that have made you think that the Church is corrupt. One important principle to remember in all of this however, is that the Lord and His Church are perfect and although the members and leaders of His Church are imperfect, He will never allow the Church to be led astray by its leaders.
Doctrines of the Church are established when the majority of the quorum of the 12 Apostles and the First Presidency are agreed to the doctrine and they declare it as doctrine (not as personal opinion or insight). The members are then under the responsibility to seek the Lord for their own personal witness of that declared doctrine. Putting all of historical and logical methods aside, the ONLY way one can know that the Church is true and divine is by the power of the Holy Ghost. How can one truly understand a person and what he/she is about without talking directly with him/her? Likewise, how can one truly understand God and His teachings without communicating with Him? We need the help and influence of the Holy Ghost to know and understand the things of God and we need the constant help of the Holy Ghost to hold on to that divine truth.
When we learn something that is true and from God, it brings peace, joy, understanding, etc. to our souls. Through my best efforts in keeping God's commandments, exercising my mental capacities, and the witness of the Holy Ghost, I know the L.D.S. Church is the Lord's Church and that the Prophets who lead it are called of God. I hope these things I have said will remind you of the feelings you felt when you joined the Church or when you met the missionaries for the first time (at your door). If you get your phone connected again, please let me know.
Luv ya. Sincerely, J------.
(I apologize to J-- for using his email without permission, but seeing as it had no personal or identifying information (only his apologetics) I felt it was reasonable. I write this in case he ever decides to take a look at this blog after all ;-)
Here is my response:
J-----,
Thanks for the note. We'll simply have to agree to disagree. What disturbs me most about the LDS church is its obvious brainwashing which was so apparent in your email ... that's why I call it a cult. It's not a criticism of you, I used to be the same ... just an observation. The problem with the LDS church is that it relies on a personal emotional manifestation of the truth, instead of empirical evidence, facts, or plain logic and reason. I have Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses and everyone under the sun testifying to me of the truthfulness of their church/book, and how I can know through prayer. Of course, the reason I know they aren't true is observing the doctrine and history, using logic, and plain facts.
I
realize that the church leaders aren't perfect, and that's fine. But I
disagree with the idea that they can never lead the church astray
through the power of the Holy Spirit or God. To accept that, I would
have to accept that Brigham Young was divinely inspired when he
supported slavery, spoke hatred towards blacks, racism in the church
etc. I'd have to believe he was divinely inspired when he said that Adam
was God manifested in the flesh, and that Jesus Christ supported
slitting people's throats, and that his sacrifice was not enough to
atone for ALL sins and that sometimes we must be killed for our sins
(Blood Atonement). All of this of course, can be found quoting Brigham
directly in the Journal of Discourses. And what did Brigham say of the JoD?
Well they are a compilation of his talks and sermons given in church
and in the temples. Seeing as he was the Prophet of the Church and
claimed it all was doctrinal, revelation ... I think we can take his
word for it when he states that anything written in it (and later edited
by him) is the word of God and as good of scripture as the Bible
itself.
I will not put my logic aside and "pray" to know if something is true. Otherwise my prayer and the so-called Holy Spirit might tell me that I should be a Muslim, or Jehovah's Witness, heck maybe even a Scientologist. No, I will use my logic. And my logic deduces that any church which was racist for hundreds of years (and still is -- because I don't believe black skin is a curse of Cain, nor do I believe I am half descended from cursed Jews), or that had killing squads wipe out its enemies (Danites, etc), or that had Blood Atonement and murdered people, or that had a Prophet having sex with married women, pregnant women, teenage girls (as young as 14), or already-married women, who has proven to have made up the Book of Abraham and Book of Mormon, to which there is NO empirical evidence for, and who falsely translated the Kinderhook Plates, and more ... must be false. It's quite simple.
Mormons claim they have faith in Jesus Christ. But let me ask: who is your faith in? Is your faith in Jesus Christ, or Joseph Smith? For if evidence proves that Smith was a fraud and the church is a lie, why fear? If you proclaim that Jesus is your Saviour, than what difference does it make if the LDS church is false - because you still are saved and have a saviour? It really makes me wonder why Mormons are so fearful of the truth. I can only surmise that their faith truly is in Joseph Smith, and in a church where salvation is based on 'works' (temple work, etc) and not really faith.
And on an end note, I felt something when the missionaries came to my door because I was a young, naive girl who would have believed the moon was made of cheese if they so told me. Thank goodness that is not the case anymore. I tell you all this with much love and affection, though it may seem rude, because I hope you too will come to see the truth ...
I will not put my logic aside and "pray" to know if something is true. Otherwise my prayer and the so-called Holy Spirit might tell me that I should be a Muslim, or Jehovah's Witness, heck maybe even a Scientologist. No, I will use my logic. And my logic deduces that any church which was racist for hundreds of years (and still is -- because I don't believe black skin is a curse of Cain, nor do I believe I am half descended from cursed Jews), or that had killing squads wipe out its enemies (Danites, etc), or that had Blood Atonement and murdered people, or that had a Prophet having sex with married women, pregnant women, teenage girls (as young as 14), or already-married women, who has proven to have made up the Book of Abraham and Book of Mormon, to which there is NO empirical evidence for, and who falsely translated the Kinderhook Plates, and more ... must be false. It's quite simple.
Mormons claim they have faith in Jesus Christ. But let me ask: who is your faith in? Is your faith in Jesus Christ, or Joseph Smith? For if evidence proves that Smith was a fraud and the church is a lie, why fear? If you proclaim that Jesus is your Saviour, than what difference does it make if the LDS church is false - because you still are saved and have a saviour? It really makes me wonder why Mormons are so fearful of the truth. I can only surmise that their faith truly is in Joseph Smith, and in a church where salvation is based on 'works' (temple work, etc) and not really faith.
And on an end note, I felt something when the missionaries came to my door because I was a young, naive girl who would have believed the moon was made of cheese if they so told me. Thank goodness that is not the case anymore. I tell you all this with much love and affection, though it may seem rude, because I hope you too will come to see the truth ...
Take care, glad you're doing well. xoxo
Luv, 'Galatian'.
Galatian's Note:
I really, truly do love my LDS friends. I have three best friends that are LDS members, whom I hope will always be my friends and be in my life. But let me state quite honestly that sometimes I struggle with our friendships. It's sad, but true.
I originally created this blog for my best friends. I was hoping they would read it if I, a best friend, had created it. I hoped they would give me the benefit of the doubt, have an open mind, and look at it. To my knowledge, none of them have viewed it.
Any conversations we have regarding the LDS church always follow the same pattern: they testify of its truthfulness, they tell me to pray and seek the "Spirit" to validate it, they quote faith-promoting rumors, verses, doctrines, etc. They then tell me that I'm mistaken, that I've been led astray by 'apostate material' and that they don't wish to discuss ANY of the evidence, quotations or questions that I have. They are quite happy to leave their head buried in the sand.
And for me, I have a great deal of difficulty keeping my tongue and my temper, because it's all so absurd. And I feel angry that my friends are in a cult - a full out fraudulent enterprise and religion, donating their time and money and all of it for nothing. But they refuse to accept the truth. What can one do?
I also have an increasingly difficult time feeling close to people who believe I will be going to hell for being an apostate (or denying the Holy Ghost), or at the very least believe they will be up tarrying about in the Celestial Kingdom becoming Gods in all their glory looking down woefully upon their poor apostate friend in the lowest levels of heaven. How arrogant; how ridiculous!
I suppose I should just be plain thankful they haven't completely cut me out of their lives, as the church generally counsels to do -- especially since I, the "apostate" have been giving them the true facts ... or as the church would call it: "anti mormon material" all part of the reason no doubt, they should never associate with me again - lest they learn the facts!
It is just a personally frustrating and sad time for me, looking at my friends' condition. And I can't help but pity them, as they no doubt 'pity' me.
Just another example of how the LDS church breaks apart family and friends ...
Monday, January 28, 2008
Gordon B. Hinckley - Deceased.
Wow, thanks to Samuel the Utahnite for cluing me in to this big Mormon news.
Here is a video clip about the life and death of Gordon B. Hinckley:
Some basic Hinckley FACTS:
Gordon B. Hinckley was born on June 23rd, 1910, in Salt Lake City Utah. He graduated high school and then attended the University of Utah. He served a mission in England (based in London), during the Great Depression.
After returning he served many positions and functions in the church, he was married in 1937 in the Salt Lake Temple, and later had five children.
In 1958 he became a General Authority, and in 1961 he became a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. In 1981 he became a member of the First Presidency: Second Counsellor.
In 1985 Hinckley became First Counsellor as Ezra Taft Benson became President; and in the early 90's became President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles through seniority.
Hinckley became President of the LDS church in 1995, after the death of his predecessor Howard W. Hunter who only lived nine months.
Gordon B. Hinckley was best known for: being the oldest living prophet of the LDS church, building numerous temples and churches, being "media-accessible", his "The Family: A Proclamation to the World" statement, the Perpetual Education Fund, and his constant travelling.
He died on January 27th, 2008 in Salt Lake City, Utah, at age ninety-seven.
To read more about Hinckley: CLICK HERE.
Now I really urge all readers to check out the Exposing Mormonism Tribute to Gordon B. Hinckley, which includes the videos below (watch them all!) :
Hinckley distorting the facts on Larry King Live/montage:
In it, Hinckley tries to act as though the LDS church simply "adds a little goodness and another testament of Christ" to already existing churches, and as though Christians can be 'saved' without Mormonism. This is of course, blatantly false as anyone who ever has been Mormon knows. The LDS church teaches it is the only true church on earth, with the only priesthood authority, the only living prophet, a "restoration" of true Christianity, and that one must accept Mormonism in order to be saved in the Celestial Kingdom. This and many other lies ... err ... "gentle explanations".
Hinckley speaks out against Racism in the LDS church:
Now I put up the previous video just to showcase the sheer hypocrisy of it all. Hinckley says no racist man can consider himself a disciple of Christ, which is interesting when we look back on statements by Brigham Young that were pro-slavery, and showed hatred of African-Americans (cursed with dark skin, disobedient people will turn black, anyone who marries a black person will die on the spot, this will always be so, etc). In addition, we can add the many racist statements of other prophets, with John Taylor coming particularly to mind.
Then of course, there is our modern day. Is it any wonder there is racism in the LDS church? It does teach after all that Black-skinned people are in fact cursed from Cain (Pearl of Great Price), the descendants of Cain, they were only allowed the priesthood in 1978 (not long ago), and that Natives were once white but cursed with dark skin-- and denies their true history and modern DNA evidence in favor of white supremacist religious ideologies.
To top that off, Utah is one of the most racist states in the US, was one of the last to accept Martin Luther King's national memorial day, and unlike other states will still gather for political functions on his holiday.
Hinckley: "Flicks of History" & "It's in the Past"
Two favorite lines of Hinckley's whenever being questioned with anything difficult, including Polygamy and Racism in the LDS church or its history - were to say that those issues are "flicks of history" and "in the past; behind us now". It's amazing to hear considering the immense suffering that Blacks and non-whites endured previously in the LDS church, and the incredible, undeniable suffering of women in polygamy then and now, thanks to Joseph Smith and official Mormon doctrine.
As the video above shows, it is pretty damning. Of course, this coming from "God's One True Church on Earth" and God's 'inspired prophets'!
Hinckley twists and distorts the truth; LIES about Polygamy!
The video title says it all, and the video speaks for itself. What amuses me especially is how Hinckely condemns polygamy and says it is 'not doctrinal' when it is in the Doctrine and Covenants, and previous prophets said it was ESSENTIAL to salvation and godhood.
Hinckley on Mormon Homophobia & Bigotry
Hinckley states: "we're not anti-gay, we're pro-family" but then in the next sentence goes on to say that gay people "have a problem" and the church is "helping" them. He admits he doesn't know if they're born that way or choose to be that way, and says he's 'not an expert' -- despite being the Prophet of God on earth, and leader of his True Church and receiving direct revelation.
Despite "not" being anti-gay, the LDS church has meddled in US politics, supporting bills (politically and financially) that ban gay marriage and equal-rights for homosexuals.
Hinckley doesn't mention the at least 40 or more documented gay & lesbian suicides in the LDS church since 1984, including 3 men in 2000 who committed suicide over the church's involvement in trying to pass Proposition 22: Clay Whitmer, DJ Thompson, and Stuart Matis. He also of course, doesn't mention BYU's history of shock therapy and pornography "treatments" for gays, and other things.
Hinckley gets a BUILDING as a Birthday gift!
It's a good thing that Mormon prophets "don't get paid"! No, they only live the jet-set lifestyle, bought and paid for by LDS Church funds. And apparently if you're really good and live to be 97, you get your own building! That, and the Prophet of the LDS church is also the head of all LDS corporations and businesses (from LDS members' money, without public accounting), and no one knows exactly how much he receives from those. It doesn't hurt of course when a Prophet is white, already wealthy or comes from a long-line of Mormons.
Here is a video clip about the life and death of Gordon B. Hinckley:
Some basic Hinckley FACTS:
Gordon B. Hinckley was born on June 23rd, 1910, in Salt Lake City Utah. He graduated high school and then attended the University of Utah. He served a mission in England (based in London), during the Great Depression.
After returning he served many positions and functions in the church, he was married in 1937 in the Salt Lake Temple, and later had five children.
In 1958 he became a General Authority, and in 1961 he became a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. In 1981 he became a member of the First Presidency: Second Counsellor.
In 1985 Hinckley became First Counsellor as Ezra Taft Benson became President; and in the early 90's became President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles through seniority.
Hinckley became President of the LDS church in 1995, after the death of his predecessor Howard W. Hunter who only lived nine months.
Gordon B. Hinckley was best known for: being the oldest living prophet of the LDS church, building numerous temples and churches, being "media-accessible", his "The Family: A Proclamation to the World" statement, the Perpetual Education Fund, and his constant travelling.
He died on January 27th, 2008 in Salt Lake City, Utah, at age ninety-seven.
To read more about Hinckley: CLICK HERE.
Now I really urge all readers to check out the Exposing Mormonism Tribute to Gordon B. Hinckley, which includes the videos below (watch them all!) :
Hinckley distorting the facts on Larry King Live/montage:
In it, Hinckley tries to act as though the LDS church simply "adds a little goodness and another testament of Christ" to already existing churches, and as though Christians can be 'saved' without Mormonism. This is of course, blatantly false as anyone who ever has been Mormon knows. The LDS church teaches it is the only true church on earth, with the only priesthood authority, the only living prophet, a "restoration" of true Christianity, and that one must accept Mormonism in order to be saved in the Celestial Kingdom. This and many other lies ... err ... "gentle explanations".
Hinckley speaks out against Racism in the LDS church:
Now I put up the previous video just to showcase the sheer hypocrisy of it all. Hinckley says no racist man can consider himself a disciple of Christ, which is interesting when we look back on statements by Brigham Young that were pro-slavery, and showed hatred of African-Americans (cursed with dark skin, disobedient people will turn black, anyone who marries a black person will die on the spot, this will always be so, etc). In addition, we can add the many racist statements of other prophets, with John Taylor coming particularly to mind.
Then of course, there is our modern day. Is it any wonder there is racism in the LDS church? It does teach after all that Black-skinned people are in fact cursed from Cain (Pearl of Great Price), the descendants of Cain, they were only allowed the priesthood in 1978 (not long ago), and that Natives were once white but cursed with dark skin-- and denies their true history and modern DNA evidence in favor of white supremacist religious ideologies.
To top that off, Utah is one of the most racist states in the US, was one of the last to accept Martin Luther King's national memorial day, and unlike other states will still gather for political functions on his holiday.
Hinckley: "Flicks of History" & "It's in the Past"
Two favorite lines of Hinckley's whenever being questioned with anything difficult, including Polygamy and Racism in the LDS church or its history - were to say that those issues are "flicks of history" and "in the past; behind us now". It's amazing to hear considering the immense suffering that Blacks and non-whites endured previously in the LDS church, and the incredible, undeniable suffering of women in polygamy then and now, thanks to Joseph Smith and official Mormon doctrine.
As the video above shows, it is pretty damning. Of course, this coming from "God's One True Church on Earth" and God's 'inspired prophets'!
Hinckley twists and distorts the truth; LIES about Polygamy!
The video title says it all, and the video speaks for itself. What amuses me especially is how Hinckely condemns polygamy and says it is 'not doctrinal' when it is in the Doctrine and Covenants, and previous prophets said it was ESSENTIAL to salvation and godhood.
Hinckley on Mormon Homophobia & Bigotry
Hinckley states: "we're not anti-gay, we're pro-family" but then in the next sentence goes on to say that gay people "have a problem" and the church is "helping" them. He admits he doesn't know if they're born that way or choose to be that way, and says he's 'not an expert' -- despite being the Prophet of God on earth, and leader of his True Church and receiving direct revelation.
Despite "not" being anti-gay, the LDS church has meddled in US politics, supporting bills (politically and financially) that ban gay marriage and equal-rights for homosexuals.
Hinckley doesn't mention the at least 40 or more documented gay & lesbian suicides in the LDS church since 1984, including 3 men in 2000 who committed suicide over the church's involvement in trying to pass Proposition 22: Clay Whitmer, DJ Thompson, and Stuart Matis. He also of course, doesn't mention BYU's history of shock therapy and pornography "treatments" for gays, and other things.
Hinckley gets a BUILDING as a Birthday gift!
It's a good thing that Mormon prophets "don't get paid"! No, they only live the jet-set lifestyle, bought and paid for by LDS Church funds. And apparently if you're really good and live to be 97, you get your own building! That, and the Prophet of the LDS church is also the head of all LDS corporations and businesses (from LDS members' money, without public accounting), and no one knows exactly how much he receives from those. It doesn't hurt of course when a Prophet is white, already wealthy or comes from a long-line of Mormons.
For more on Hinckley's LIES, check out THIS GREAT POST. Give it a read.
Galatian's Note:
Gordon B. Hinckley's
run as Prophet will always hold special significance for me because he
was the President when I joined, the years I was an active member, and
when I left the LDS church.
Probably what I will remember most about Hinckley
are his media interviews and attempts to reach out to the press and
obtain favorable publicity for the Church. I'm always astonished when I
watch his interviews on prominent programs and see him outright lying
about Mormon history, doctrines, modern beliefs and church practices. It
simply boggles the mind that any true-believing-mormon (TBM)
could watch these things and somehow justify them ... but with Mormons
it's always "milk before meat" and "lying for the Lord" ... so what if
we have to lie to obtain members? If they join and accept "the truth"
they'll be thankful later on - won't they?
There's also Hinckley's involvement, and in my opinion - attempted cover-up and damage control, of the Mark Hofmann forgeries and murders. To learn more about Hinckley's dealings in that situation, read "Tracking the White Salamander" and research more in-depth.
It's somewhat sad to me when I reflect on what
affection I used to have for the man. As a member I nearly cried one
year as we sang songs for Hinckley's birthday at General Conference. Here I thought this was a prophet of God!
Now I only see a frail, elderly man at the end of his
life, leading a dishonest organization and pretending to be God's
representative on earth. It's difficult for me to respect Hinckley, because I am not even certain he was 'honest' in his faith.
Having grown up in the church and served it all his
life, it would be easy to assume and believe that he must be deceived
and somehow deluded into believing he speaks for God - and that his
dishonesty comes from that.
However,
I find it hard to accept that a man with that much experience in the
church, knowledge of it, and moderate intelligence -- would not have
realized it was a fraud and sham by this point. Being the President,
having access to the LDS church archives and restricted documents, having dealt directly with Mark Hofmann
and knowing all he does (that regular members do not) I can't quite say
that I don't believe he knew it was all a lie but carried it on anyway.
Why stop now, after a lifetime of devotion? Being in charge and having
people hail you as a 'prophet of God' and treat you like a rock star
- why stop it? Having billions at your disposal, flying private jets
around the world and meeting with politicians and important figures -
why turn it down?
I do feel badly for Hinckley's
family because it's always a personal tragedy for people to lose a
father, grandfather or loved one. And this is no exception because
dishonest or not - he was human and had people who loved him and will
miss him.
At the same time however, I can't help but reflect and
feel badly for all the families and friends of Mormons who committed
suicide due to the destructive teachings and policies of Hinckley and the LDS
church. I feel badly for all the missionaries who have died on their
missions in the last few years -- all in vain. I feel badly for all the
people's lives who have been destroyed by Mormonism during Hinckley's tenure as Prophet.
The man will be praised by Mormons, and perhaps he's
done some admirable things in his life; yet I also think of the damage
perpetuated by the LDS cult, and Hinckley at the head of it all these years.
On an end note, there is some irony in his death. I
generally believe that his life is now over and his body will naturally
decay in the earth and go through all the processes which happen
biologically. I mean no disrespect by this, I just literally figure that
is the case. But even supposing I am wrong and he is 'elsewhere' in
some unknown metaphysical place -- I can confidently say that I am
CERTAIN he will be discovering that Mormonism is a fraud and that he led
a destructive worldwide organization all these years.
So much for speaking on behalf of God ...
Monday, January 14, 2008
Two Year Anniversary
I am so pleased and happy to announce that today is my Two Year Anniversary of leaving Mormonism!
I looked back on some old journals, and it was recorded on January 14th, 2006 that I had officially decided that Mormonism was a fraud, and that I was going to leave the Mormon Church.
It was the beginning of a new year, and I struggled through the various levels of: denial, bargaining, justification, anger, and sadness, until I reached acceptance ... and finally gratitude.
In the two years since I have learned much about the real history of Mormonism, the truth about the church, and I have finally grown up and found my place in 'the real world'.
I no longer live in a self-deluded fantasy, and I will always be proud of myself for leaving Mormonism, for escaping the indocrination and guilt, and for thinking for myself.
I have studied Christianity, history, religion in general, evolution, science and many more subjects. I have learned more in the last two years of study than I learned in 8 years of Mormonism. But the process of learning is an on-going thing, which will never end.
I am so much happier, and I feel a peace in my heart that was missing for those eight years. I feel self-acceptance, I feel acceptance for others, and I marvel at the beauty of this world that I once so arrogantly condemned and took for granted.
Tears come to my eyes, because I don't even know how to express how grateful I am, to have left Mormonism, how much more free my spirit is, how wonderful life really is.
Leaving Mormonism was painful and difficult, but it was one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life. I'm so proud of myself, so happy to have done it, and I truly hope I can help others in their journey out of it.
I am in debt to those who took the time and effort to expose Mormonism, and to tell the truth. To all those who wrote articles, made videos, made websites and blogs, to those who spoke openly ... I owe my education to you. I owe my freedom to you. Thank you for the work you have done, and please know it has not been in vain.
I looked back on some old journals, and it was recorded on January 14th, 2006 that I had officially decided that Mormonism was a fraud, and that I was going to leave the Mormon Church.
It was the beginning of a new year, and I struggled through the various levels of: denial, bargaining, justification, anger, and sadness, until I reached acceptance ... and finally gratitude.
In the two years since I have learned much about the real history of Mormonism, the truth about the church, and I have finally grown up and found my place in 'the real world'.
I no longer live in a self-deluded fantasy, and I will always be proud of myself for leaving Mormonism, for escaping the indocrination and guilt, and for thinking for myself.
I have studied Christianity, history, religion in general, evolution, science and many more subjects. I have learned more in the last two years of study than I learned in 8 years of Mormonism. But the process of learning is an on-going thing, which will never end.
I am so much happier, and I feel a peace in my heart that was missing for those eight years. I feel self-acceptance, I feel acceptance for others, and I marvel at the beauty of this world that I once so arrogantly condemned and took for granted.
Tears come to my eyes, because I don't even know how to express how grateful I am, to have left Mormonism, how much more free my spirit is, how wonderful life really is.
Leaving Mormonism was painful and difficult, but it was one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life. I'm so proud of myself, so happy to have done it, and I truly hope I can help others in their journey out of it.
I am in debt to those who took the time and effort to expose Mormonism, and to tell the truth. To all those who wrote articles, made videos, made websites and blogs, to those who spoke openly ... I owe my education to you. I owe my freedom to you. Thank you for the work you have done, and please know it has not been in vain.
Is this how it feels to be free?
Is this how it feels to be me?
Today I smiled, because I feel alive --
for the first time, in a long time.
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
Cheap Mormon Books
I wanted to do a post to share with everyone some resources on how and where to get cheaply priced Mormon-related books.
The Mormon Historical Reference Library
This is a fantastic collection of books, available very cheaply on cd-rom. For only $9.99 (US) plus $2.00 shipping & handling ($5.00 for international) you will get all the following books -- see below -- plus an assortment of other documents on a variety of topics.
Payment can be made via Paypal, check (US), or Money Order. This is an excellent bargain!
Some of these are real gems. For instance there is John D. Lee's book (his confessions and life), there's Eliza Young's book (one of Brigham's wives and her story), and writings by Mormons and ex-Mormons alike; all painting a real picture of early Utah, the beginning of the LDS church, and what the leaders were like in person. The 6 Volumes of "The Story of the Mormons" is an incredible book - worth the price alone!
For more information, including purchasing/payment: CLICK HERE.
Here is the list:
“The Golden Bible” by Rev M. T. Lamb
“Mormonism Unvailed” by E. D. Howe
“The History of Utah, 1540 - 1886.” by Hubert Howe Bancroft
“Brigham’s Destroying Angel” by Bill Hickman
“Wife No 19” by Ann Eliza Young
“Mormonism Unveiled” by John D. Lee.
(Also known as “The Confessions of John D. Lee”)
“Life In Utah” by J.H. Beadle.
“Reminiscences of Early Utah” by R.N. Baskin
“Exposition of Freemasonry” by Capt William Morgan
“2000 Changes in the Book of Mormon” by Lamoni Call.
“Tell It All” by Mrs. (Fanny) T. B. H. Stenhouse.
“A History of Illinois” by Governor Thomas Ford.
(Excepts from the book concerning the Mormons in Nauvoo)
“1830 Book of Mormon” (Divided into the current Chapters and verse used by the LDS church today)
“Book of Commandments” (Today known as the Doctrine & Covenants)
“John Whitmer History” by John Whitmer
“The Women of Mormondon” by Edward W. Tullidge (.txt format)
“The Seer” by Orson Pratt
“Biographical Sketches of Joseph Smith” by Lucy Smith. (The version that Brigham Young tried to destroy! I also show you why.)
“View of the Hebrews” (2nd Edition) by Ethan Smith
“Manuscript Story” by Solomon Spaulding (I also give you a comparison between this story and the Book of Mormon.)
“Evidences in Proof of the Book of Mormon.” by Charles Thompson
“Book of the Law of the Lord.” by James J. Strang
“Jerald and Sandra Tanner’s Distorted View of Mormonism:A Response to Mormonism—Shadow or Reality?” by a Latter-day Saint Historian (I also give the Tanners’ response)
“A Brief History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” by John Corrill
“The Story of the Mormons” (all 6 volumes) by William Alexander Linn
“A Comprehensive History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” by B. H. Roberts (all 6 volumes) (.txt)
“Mormonism and Masonry” by S. H. Goodwin
“A Collection of Facts Relative to Sidney Rigdon” by Jedediah M. Grant
“Mormonism Exposed” by LaRoy Sunderland
“The Story of Polygamy” by Jennie Anderson Froiseth
“Mountain Meadows Massacre” by Josiah F. Gibbs
Sherlock Holmes in: “A Study in Scarlet” by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
“Riders of the Purple Sage” by Zane Grey
Joseph Smith’s “White Horse Prophecy”
“Oration” by Sidney Rigdon (The controversial 4th of July, 1838 speech)
“Lectures On Faith”
“King Follett Discourse”
“Expulsion of the Mormons” by John P. Greene.
“The Nauvoo Expositor” (The newspaper that Joseph Smith destroyed)
“Manuscript History of Brigham Young” by Brigham Young
“Facts Respecting the Rise and Progress and Pretensions of the Mormons” by William S. West
“Roughing It” by Mark Twain (Excepts from the book concerning the Mormons in Utah–very funny)
JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES
The Journal of Discourses are a very revealing look at some of the first prophets, their teachings, and the early beliefs of the LDS church. It is 26 volumes: a collection of the sermons of Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow, and Joseph F. Smith.
It's very interesting to read such gems as: Young's teachings on God being Adam, his dreams of slitting throats, his hatred of apostates, thoughts on Doctrine, etc. There's also a lot of chastising personal members, complaining about the Indians, bragging about Mormon exploits, and more.
All 26 volumes are available on PDF format for $10 (US), or cd-rom for $15, not including S&H.
To purchase the PDF format: CLICK HERE.
To purchase the CD Version: CLICK HERE.
Note: To buy the Journal of Discourses in book form, at a place such as Deseret Books would cost you a fair amount. This is a great deal, and these volumes are worth having.
TANNER BOOKS
Sandra and Gerald (now passed) Tanner are ex-mormons who are greatly respected for their research and publications regarding Mormonism. For many years they have researched into Mormon history, and have ascertained a great wealth of knowledge, surpassed by few other people today. With Tanner writings, you know you will always be provided with a good bibliography, references, documentation and quotations. They have extensively covered many aspects of Mormonism and have been the source many times for leaked or never-before-seen documents surfacing in the public arena.
Their books are well written, and available to purchase for cheap prices; they are more concerned with getting the content out than they are with reaping financial rewards.
"Tracking the White Salamander: The Story of Mark Hofman, Murder and Forged Mormon Documents".
Price: $8.00 (US) Not including S&H. To order: CLICK HERE.
"Mormon Claims Answered".
Price: $4.00 (US) Not including S&H. To order: CLICK HERE.
(Although this book was written by Marvin W. Cowan, he has allowed the Tanner's to publish a cheaper paper copy and distribute it.)
"Curse of Cain: Racism in the Mormon Church".
Price: $6.00 (US) Not including S&H. To order: CLICK HERE.
"3,913 Changes to the Book of Mormon".
Price $14.00 (US) Not including S&H. To order: CLICK HERE.
(Note: This book is the photo reprint 1830 Book of Mormon with all the changes marked in and noted, as well as a 16 page introduction by the Tanners explaining the significance.)
The Tanner's also have the following books available in cheap paper copies:
"Mountain Meadow's Massacre" by Josiah F. Gibbs. ($4.00) CLICK HERE.
"Brigham's Destroying Angel: Being the Life, Confession, and Startling Disclosures of the Notorious Bill Hickman." ($5.00) CLICK HERE.
"Exposition of Freemasonry" by Captain William Morgan. ($5.00) CLICK HERE.
MORE BOOKS:
"By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus" by Charles M. Larson.
For a limited time, this book is offered FREE to LDS members, with only a $3.00 shipping charge (US) or $5.00 shipping charge (international).
It can also be ordered from IRR for only $8.95 (plus shipping) for non LDS members, or when the free offer expires.
For more information, or to order: CLICK HERE.
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I will be adding to this list as time goes by, it will be an ongoing article. If anyone has any suggestions on other great cheaply-priced books and documentation, leave me a note or email.
The Mormon Historical Reference Library
This is a fantastic collection of books, available very cheaply on cd-rom. For only $9.99 (US) plus $2.00 shipping & handling ($5.00 for international) you will get all the following books -- see below -- plus an assortment of other documents on a variety of topics.
Payment can be made via Paypal, check (US), or Money Order. This is an excellent bargain!
Some of these are real gems. For instance there is John D. Lee's book (his confessions and life), there's Eliza Young's book (one of Brigham's wives and her story), and writings by Mormons and ex-Mormons alike; all painting a real picture of early Utah, the beginning of the LDS church, and what the leaders were like in person. The 6 Volumes of "The Story of the Mormons" is an incredible book - worth the price alone!
For more information, including purchasing/payment: CLICK HERE.
Here is the list:
“The Golden Bible” by Rev M. T. Lamb
“Mormonism Unvailed” by E. D. Howe
“The History of Utah, 1540 - 1886.” by Hubert Howe Bancroft
“Brigham’s Destroying Angel” by Bill Hickman
“Wife No 19” by Ann Eliza Young
“Mormonism Unveiled” by John D. Lee.
(Also known as “The Confessions of John D. Lee”)
“Life In Utah” by J.H. Beadle.
“Reminiscences of Early Utah” by R.N. Baskin
“Exposition of Freemasonry” by Capt William Morgan
“2000 Changes in the Book of Mormon” by Lamoni Call.
“Tell It All” by Mrs. (Fanny) T. B. H. Stenhouse.
“A History of Illinois” by Governor Thomas Ford.
(Excepts from the book concerning the Mormons in Nauvoo)
“1830 Book of Mormon” (Divided into the current Chapters and verse used by the LDS church today)
“Book of Commandments” (Today known as the Doctrine & Covenants)
“John Whitmer History” by John Whitmer
“The Women of Mormondon” by Edward W. Tullidge (.txt format)
“The Seer” by Orson Pratt
“Biographical Sketches of Joseph Smith” by Lucy Smith. (The version that Brigham Young tried to destroy! I also show you why.)
“View of the Hebrews” (2nd Edition) by Ethan Smith
“Manuscript Story” by Solomon Spaulding (I also give you a comparison between this story and the Book of Mormon.)
“Evidences in Proof of the Book of Mormon.” by Charles Thompson
“Book of the Law of the Lord.” by James J. Strang
“Jerald and Sandra Tanner’s Distorted View of Mormonism:A Response to Mormonism—Shadow or Reality?” by a Latter-day Saint Historian (I also give the Tanners’ response)
“A Brief History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” by John Corrill
“The Story of the Mormons” (all 6 volumes) by William Alexander Linn
“A Comprehensive History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” by B. H. Roberts (all 6 volumes) (.txt)
“Mormonism and Masonry” by S. H. Goodwin
“A Collection of Facts Relative to Sidney Rigdon” by Jedediah M. Grant
“Mormonism Exposed” by LaRoy Sunderland
“The Story of Polygamy” by Jennie Anderson Froiseth
“Mountain Meadows Massacre” by Josiah F. Gibbs
Sherlock Holmes in: “A Study in Scarlet” by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
“Riders of the Purple Sage” by Zane Grey
Joseph Smith’s “White Horse Prophecy”
“Oration” by Sidney Rigdon (The controversial 4th of July, 1838 speech)
“Lectures On Faith”
“King Follett Discourse”
“Expulsion of the Mormons” by John P. Greene.
“The Nauvoo Expositor” (The newspaper that Joseph Smith destroyed)
“Manuscript History of Brigham Young” by Brigham Young
“Facts Respecting the Rise and Progress and Pretensions of the Mormons” by William S. West
“Roughing It” by Mark Twain (Excepts from the book concerning the Mormons in Utah–very funny)
JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES
The Journal of Discourses are a very revealing look at some of the first prophets, their teachings, and the early beliefs of the LDS church. It is 26 volumes: a collection of the sermons of Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow, and Joseph F. Smith.
It's very interesting to read such gems as: Young's teachings on God being Adam, his dreams of slitting throats, his hatred of apostates, thoughts on Doctrine, etc. There's also a lot of chastising personal members, complaining about the Indians, bragging about Mormon exploits, and more.
All 26 volumes are available on PDF format for $10 (US), or cd-rom for $15, not including S&H.
To purchase the PDF format: CLICK HERE.
To purchase the CD Version: CLICK HERE.
Note: To buy the Journal of Discourses in book form, at a place such as Deseret Books would cost you a fair amount. This is a great deal, and these volumes are worth having.
TANNER BOOKS
Sandra and Gerald (now passed) Tanner are ex-mormons who are greatly respected for their research and publications regarding Mormonism. For many years they have researched into Mormon history, and have ascertained a great wealth of knowledge, surpassed by few other people today. With Tanner writings, you know you will always be provided with a good bibliography, references, documentation and quotations. They have extensively covered many aspects of Mormonism and have been the source many times for leaked or never-before-seen documents surfacing in the public arena.
Their books are well written, and available to purchase for cheap prices; they are more concerned with getting the content out than they are with reaping financial rewards.
"Tracking the White Salamander: The Story of Mark Hofman, Murder and Forged Mormon Documents".
Price: $8.00 (US) Not including S&H. To order: CLICK HERE.
"Mormon Claims Answered".
Price: $4.00 (US) Not including S&H. To order: CLICK HERE.
(Although this book was written by Marvin W. Cowan, he has allowed the Tanner's to publish a cheaper paper copy and distribute it.)
"Curse of Cain: Racism in the Mormon Church".
Price: $6.00 (US) Not including S&H. To order: CLICK HERE.
"3,913 Changes to the Book of Mormon".
Price $14.00 (US) Not including S&H. To order: CLICK HERE.
(Note: This book is the photo reprint 1830 Book of Mormon with all the changes marked in and noted, as well as a 16 page introduction by the Tanners explaining the significance.)
The Tanner's also have the following books available in cheap paper copies:
"Mountain Meadow's Massacre" by Josiah F. Gibbs. ($4.00) CLICK HERE.
"Brigham's Destroying Angel: Being the Life, Confession, and Startling Disclosures of the Notorious Bill Hickman." ($5.00) CLICK HERE.
"Exposition of Freemasonry" by Captain William Morgan. ($5.00) CLICK HERE.
MORE BOOKS:
"By His Own Hand Upon Papyrus" by Charles M. Larson.
For a limited time, this book is offered FREE to LDS members, with only a $3.00 shipping charge (US) or $5.00 shipping charge (international).
It can also be ordered from IRR for only $8.95 (plus shipping) for non LDS members, or when the free offer expires.
For more information, or to order: CLICK HERE.
***
I will be adding to this list as time goes by, it will be an ongoing article. If anyone has any suggestions on other great cheaply-priced books and documentation, leave me a note or email.
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