05 January 2008

Michael Hunter (Update)

It appears that Shawn McDonald has lost his court battle to gain custody of his own son, Michael Hunter. Shawn McDonald is the biological father to Michael-Hunter, and was not aware of his son until two days before he was born.

Hunter was given up for adoption through LDS Family Services by his mother, without Shawn's consent. The baby was taken to Idaho and given to an LDS couple there, whom Shawn has been fighting in court. Shawn already has a 3 and 1/2 year old daughter with his ex, but for some reason she felt the need to give Hunter up for adoption, and she and LDS Family Services clearly conspired to hide the pregnancy and ensuing adoption from Shawn.

Shawn has been going through a living nightmare, that I cannot even begin to imagine, although I sympathize fully and completely. He was granted visitation with his son, and some monetary compensation to cover legal bills. This recent ruling is a major blow, and in my opinion - extremely unjust. LDS Family Services gets away with their kidnapping tactics yet again!

Here are some words from Shawn, a little over a year ago:

On his daughter: "She's missing out on her brother, too."

On how LDS Services wins: "And that's how they get it done, they just drain people, make you spend all your money on lawyers when they got endless amounts of money, you know."

What Shawn's previous lawyer, Rob Kersey had to say: "I've never seen an agency take off with a child. Nobody has a custody order. Nobody has anything."

Well obviously Mr. Kersey had never dealt with LDS "Family Services" before, but lawyers all across the country are getting an education in LDS illegal/immoral tactics more than ever!

(For a link to the original article: click HERE)

I would like to know how much the LDS church is contributing towards legal bills for the Hess's, and if they are covering all the legal fees entirely.


A video about the latest ruling:



Another earlier video, about the case:




We will see what legal proceedings are left for Shawn to pursue, and what will happen from here. The jury did award Shawn visitation which is good, but a minor consolation compared to having his own son - which should be his right! But as Shawn himself says, fathers have no real rights.
It's especially difficult for anyone to battle a multi-billion dollar corporation. The LDS church has millions at its disposal to throw away in order to ensure that an LDS couple gets the baby they want, and they have the resources to pump the ol' PR machine and make the father look as bad as possible. What average person can compete against such odds?

I will be keeping an eye on this case, and updating everyone as events occur. Shawn I just want you to know that many of us (probably all), in the ex-mo community support you fully, and our hearts go out to you in what must be an incredibly horrible ordeal.

BADMOUTHING FATHERS

I've been sickened (but not surprised) to read on message boards and forums, the nasty things people have to say about the fathers in these cases, particularly LDS people. They claim the fathers are unfit, bad people, selfish, arrogant and that the babies are better off in "two-parent" homes. The gossip abounds about the fathers being criminals or anything else that's negative and unsubstantiated.

First of all, no one is arguing that a two-parent stable home is not the ideal. Of course it is. But this is the real world, and not every baby is born into that situation. What gives the LDS church (or anyone else for that matter) the right to rip children away from parents that love and want them -- and give them to someone else based on religious/social standing?

Perhaps we should start taking children away from all single parents and giving them to LDS couples. If you earn under $40,000 a year? Your baby gets taken and given to an LDS couple. Did you used to have an addiction? Ever been to rehab or counselling for depression? Your baby is going to an LDS couple! Did you grow up in an imperfect family, or have a case of high blood pressure and heart disease? The baby is going to an LDS family! Did you once purchase an X-rated magazine as a teenage boy, or cheat during a high school exam? Your baby is going to an LDS family!

I mean, it's absolutely ludicrous! What person is perfect? What family is perfect? Who can score A+ in every part of life and meet unrealistic qualifications? No one! The only reason the LDS church is able to get away with this is because they usually do it very secretively, and they are experts at kidnapping children, no exaggeration! It's swept under the rug because no one wants to face the issue, no one wants to deal with it, and everyone is too damn PC. And the LDS people won't complain because ... when Mormons do it, it can't be wrong! The church is always true!

Everything these spectators have to say about the fathers amazes me, since they don't even know them personally. But somehow everyone knows everything, and "knows" that these men could not be good parents, or are rotten people, or that the LDS couple can provide a better life. How do they know? I suppose it must be the burning bosom!

The mud slinging is just fantastically pathetic, but typical. It's like my own brother who witnessed a stabbing. He held the victim as he was dying, trying to stop the bleeding and save his life. Only to have it thrown back at him later on in court, with LDS Family Services implying that he's unfit to be a father because he is "implicated in a murder". I mean, it sure makes it sound a lot different than what actually happened!

I for one, am utterly repulsed at the rude messages, judgmental messages, and LDS-can-do-no-wrong-brainwashed messages people have written about Shawn McDonald, Matt Tenneson, Cody O'Dea and others. All because these men WANT THEIR OWN CHILDREN! Their own flesh and blood children whom they were denied for no proper reason ... children that were simply moved out of state and given away to LDS couples like some toy or trinket!

How can the states, and the government of America allow such kidnappings to go on and turn a blind eye? This is incredible! And it needs to be exposed for the country and world at large to see!

I am not advocating the idea that fathers should win custody merely because they are the father. For instance, a father who is a known heroin addict, who has been convicted of spousal abuse, and who has a history of molestation or violence in his family obviously should not get custody. But come on, we all know that those sort of cases are a rare event! Most fathers trying to win their children back from LDS couples are normal, loving people with normal families who are losing because they don't have the money to fight, and they aren't Mormon. If a father is functional, loving, and not abusive -- his rights should be considered first, as is only logical, ethical and fair under the law.

At least give the fathers equal rights. Judge them based on their own merits. They deserve that much! They deserve the same consideration and treatment that LDS couples receive.


LDS FAMILIES ARE NOT PERFECT

LDS people are like anyone else: imperfect. They have the same flaws and struggles as non-LDS people do. I was a Mormon for 8 years, and knew many Mormon families, and they were not perfect. Case in point:

I knew a woman (whom I respect greatly) who was an LDS member. She babysat my son. She was a kindhearted, smart, loving woman that I can't say a bad thing about. She and her husband were not able to conceive and so they adopted a daughter through LDS Family Services.
A few years later, her husband had an affair and left her. This "temple worthy, two parent home" underwent a very sad divorce and situation. Did giving this girl to an LDS home ensure that her life would be perfect, or that she would have two parents? No.

That is not an isolated case. I know many stories very similar, and the same, as the one just mentioned. Yes, there are great LDS families, but there are many imperfect ones, dysfunctional ones, or sad ones as well. Because LDS people are just like everyone else. And pretending that they are perfect and can give a superior life to a child as opposed to the father or non-LDS people is just the epitomy of arrogance and foolishness.

If LDS children were being taken from the mothers and given to Catholic couples, or Jewish couples on a regular basis -- the church would be in an uproar! But somehow, because it's LDS couples taking other people's children, it's "God's will" and acceptable. And seeing as Utah is the most corrupt state in terms of adoptions (and many other things), everyone turns a blind eye. The legislature regarding adoption isn't going to change any time soon - because Utah is Mormon controlled! And the corruption goes on ...


Every day I cannot open a newspaper, or go on the internet, or do anything without seeing how the LDS church is destroying people's lives. For such a small organization (only 13 million worldwide or less) it causes catastrophes everywhere. I'm in awe of how such a small cult can create such devastation continually.

There needs to be proper investigations, publicity and measures taken to change the adoption laws in Utah, and elsewhere. And we need proper watchdog groups monitoring LDS Family Services and others, and holding people accountable for kidnapping and baby selling.

We sure as hell can't count on the Mormon church doing it. Mormon members generally believe they are following 'God's will', and that they are right, their church can do no wrong, that they have the one and only "true church and truth" of the universe, and are on their way to Godhood in eternity everlasting! There is no reasoning with these people or this organization. We need outside, non-LDS intervention NOW!

11 comments:

abby said...

I just found your blog and while reading this, tears are streaming down my face. I can't go into details, but similar issues have happened in my family and I am just so angry to see this happening. The funniest thing is, that being one of nine children and growing up with a father who was a Bishop for 12 years of my 17 years at home-I can tell you that it was like having a single parent! LDS Family Services needs to be brought to justice. This is just a ridiculous story all the way around. This must end-Fathers need rights!
Wow-this is just appalling.
Thanks for sharing this.

Anonymous said...

ITs funny you shold mention taking od LDS babies...I just happen to have met, personally, a man who was an LDS child and was taken from his LDS family and given to an Evangelical family. He now is an evangelical but still believes his name is on the rolls of the Church Yes, it is true.

Anonymous said...

Mwahahahahah! Give us your children so we can offer them up on our temple alters. Mwahahahahahaha. Give me a break. You people are desperate.

Galatian said...

Yeah, laugh it up Mormon apologists/cult members. Show the world how cold and brainwashed you really are. This is not an unusual case, but a VERY usual one.

And I don't think evangelicals make it a habit or institutional practice to take LDS children -- like LDS members take non-members (fathers) children.
But laugh it up. It's all so funny isn't it? Massacres, polygamy, blood atonement, kidnapping children and lying about an imaginary book -- all acceptable in your world, isn't it?

I'm not desperate ... you are! Desperate to believe you have the one and only "truth" in the whole universe and are "god's chosen people" mwahahaha give me a break!

Laugh it up, cult member. Laugh it up. Cause I'm EXPOSING MORMONISM every day! And more people are finding out the truth and leaving the church ... AND I'm proud to be a compassionate person who actually FEELS EMOTION for people that may not be LDS, unlike yourselves.

kristy said...

Did you all know that Shawn McDonald filed a lawsuit against the LDS(church), LDSFS adoption agency, The social worker for LDSFS, and the couple. The lawsuit was filed after this father had waited for 16 months for LDS family service and the couple to do the right thing and give his son back.

JohnG3711 said...

Your article is full of the comments such as "Family Services did this, Family Services did that."

What you fail to say is that Family Services only acted at the behest of someone in need. Family Services then gathered data and presented the case to the appropriate government agency and the "Government Agency" places the children.

Do the children get placed where Family Services tells them to? I would say that since the statistic indicate that LDS families are a very stable influence in a childs life the Agencies are prone to put the children where Family Services suggests.

You article is Muck Raking and Yellow Journalism at it's best.

Stop blaming the church! Stop blaming LDS Family Services!

Mark Beesley said...

I don't suppose you would care to post some links where LDS posters have posted the mean and nasty stuff that you have accused them of?

Galatian said...

Maybe if Mormon apologists RESEARCHED instead of coming on here trying to do PR work for their church, they'd get the damn hint.

The reason I say "LDS Services did this and that" is because it did! LDS Family Services REGULARLY convinces the birth mother to secretly flee to another province or state and give birth or give the baby away -- WITHOUT THE FATHER'S KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT, thereby kidnapping a child.

By the time the father goes to court and battles it out - so much time has passed it could be months or years. As in the case of Shawn McDonald who only found out TWO DAYS BEFOREHAND and did everything right away that he was supposed to -- it's not HIS FAULT that the baby was given to an adoptive couple against his wishes and kept there (kidnapped) ... he has been BATTLING IT OUT IN COURT FOR OVER A YEAR and still no end in sight.

All this time he has been fighting for his own son that was kidnapped from him? Whose fault was that -- LDS "FAMILY SERVICES"!

It might be one thing if this was an isolated case, but it's not ... there are thousands of cases like this spanning decades ... it's a regular practice/past-time for LDS.

Also last time I checked, LDSFS hadn't 'helped' anyone in this case, they kidnapped a baby.
And it wasn't a government agency that placed the child, it was LDSFS, hence them getting the blame! Although I forgot, MORMONS CAN DO NO WRONG ... genocide, murders, polygamy, kidnapping babies -- the Mormon way! All in God's name!

The reason children get placed there is because THEY ARE KIDNAPPED and taken there, and then parents do not have the money/resources to fight for years to get them back, or their children are allowed to stay because they've already been there 2,3,4 years and the court rules in their favor. They would have been with the FATHER/PARENT all those years if they hadn't been kidnapped - so get it straight!!

So the moral of the story:

BLAME LDS FAMILY SERVICES! BLAME THE CHURCH! They are the ones kidnapping children and perpetuating this.

And in response to Mark, LDS people regularly say nasty things about non-LDS, "apostates" and all one needs to do is read the forums and message boards and see the nasty, vile things they have written about the fathers. Instead of asking me, why don't you just "Google"?? Right, that would take efforts and actually facing the facts, instead of asking questions on a blog with the intent of defending the actions of LDS people - no matter the wrongdoing!

Morg apologists, save yourselves the time and trouble. Attempting PR damage control won't help your cause.
Cause here we all know the truth about Mormonism and LDS Family Services!

Anonymous said...

To John,
You need to get your facts right. LDSFS did this un adoption all wrong. The Dps(who reglate them gave them violations for not contacting the father) the social worker is in trouble with the state board. And everyone (all lawyers) and Jury in this court found them guilty. Funny thing is Mr McDonald's lawyers asked for 75 thousand in att fee's and were awarded 100 thousand.
Nr McDonakd see his son once a month and if nothing changes by the summer get's his son for the summer. Unfit (no) termated of his rights (no). In fact this court had no reason to even go to best interest or where the childshould live(this wasn't a that kind of case) Every body will see what the appeal judge has to say.

Anonymous said...

I also have lost a child through LDS recently. LDS, knowing that I was opposed to the adoption and looking forward to bringing her home, advised the mother to list the Father as UNKNOWN on the birth certificate. I have exhausted my resources through the justice system only to be told that the LDS church "has deep pockets". I would appreciate any advice/advocacy/help I can get. Thanks size13shoez@hotmail.com

Anonymous said...

Well after reading the various comments and what I personally know, it would seem like this church is really playing GOD on earth! My son-in-law is a victim of this baby trafficking ring. He was born in sunrise hospital in 1968 adopted to some LDS white couple and when the wife's husband died, she brought him back at the age of 3! He is bi racial, I'm thinking that was the real reason. His birth mother claimed that his father was Indian who looked Black, lol, She also said that she did not tell him anything about her pregnancy and wanted to handled things herself! So his father does not know he ever existed. He was placed in some kind of orphanage until a black couple adopted him from Los Angles, (so he was adopted twice.) The adopted mother had mental problems and she severely child abused him. This couple divorced a year after the adoption. I blamed the birth mother, her parents and the church for this. She was 20 and working as a supervisor in Juvenile court.Her father had been a lawyer in the senate office etc. There was no Godly reason for this awful adoption to have taken place. Her and her parent were LDS members! According to the non identifying info; They felt that he would be better off being adopted; and maybe they are right!